Mixed feelings about the finale

[Hales]

I think Nick should forget about Lulu... for a while at least...

Get his own life back on track after the fiasco with Mandy... I blame his dead probation officer for at least one of his problems :biggrin:... if he hadn't blackmailed poor Nick then Nick would have only had the firm to worry about and Hunter and Dr Reed... and Nick's own father.

Of course you can always protest...

[M.A.Y.]

We've all assumed that LuLu will be back for more than an episode or two next season...but has anyone else noticed that Wendy M. has not yet been added as a cast member on any of the official TG websites.  Of course this could be a simple oversight...but she's been on the show for half the season....hmmmm...

[juliana106]

I've noticed this too, and for one reason or another I believe it's been an oversight. I mean, Hollander had said she was a contract player once Erica Leehrsen was let go --- and to me, she appears to be the show's female lead. Barbara and Lorie Solt are recurring, and haven't had the screen time Lulu has had since coming onto the show. I guess (being, or trying to be optimistic) I think we would've heard by now if she was planning not to return. Here's hoping Lulu is back for the full 2002/2003 season  ;D

[EllenArden]

I'm really hoping that the way the Lulu and Nick storyline played out in the season finale means that Wendy Moniz will remain as a regular cast member, because I think this (possible?) marriage to Brian opens up a lot of storylines and possibilities, rather than shutting them down.  They could have pulled an Erica Leersen(sp?) and had the Lulu character say: "That's it; I'm so confused, I'm moving, I'm outta here!" thing  , and that would've been a big disappointment for me, because it would've struck me as though the writers were telling us:"O.K., all that storyline ... just forget about that.  We're starting over ," in a sense.  And I think we've only scratched the surface when it comes to Lulu.  "The Chinese Wall" was great because we started to learn some of her background, and I liked that.  It was a positive sign when Wendy M.'s name was added to the credits at the beginning of the show - they could've pulled a "Melrose Place" and kept her as a "special guest star", like Heather Locklear, I suppose!  ;D  Definitely, here's hoping for more!  

[Jennifer]

I noticed that CBS doesn't update their site quickly. They have the same poll/question eversince the show debuted in Sept.'01. It took them awhile to omit Erica Leershen's name off the cast list. I am guessing that it is an oversight and that eventually they will add Wendy M's name in there. Also trying to be optimistic here. I agree with Ellen's post though. In Chinse Wall, it looks as if the show is exploring Lulu's past/family. It took them several episodes before giving us a hint about her family background.  This all happened towards the end of the season. I agree with Ellen. Although, I was disappointed with Lulu's supposed marriage because I was hoping Nick and Lulu will have the chance at love, I see a lot of storyline possibilities here, more romantic tension, etc.  I just hope that the show gives us a little bit of romance between them even if it doesn't happen right  away.  Of course, Lulu will have to do a lot of soul searching and leave that cad Brian.

[spunkymungbeans]

I've continued to give the Nick/Lulu thing a bit of thought and I've come to some conclusions:

1) Lulu is here to stay - for which I'm glad.  I'd hate to think they were going to put all that effort into building her character just to let her go.

2) In even the worst of marriages it usually takes about six months for the marriage to break down.  Let's say 22 eps = 1 year - I predict (hope) that she sticks with the marriage for at least 10 episodes.  I think that this is realistic.  We don't have any indication that Brian is going to doing anything drastic like beat her, so the breakdown will come from basic incompatibilities and perhaps Lulu learning of his indiscretions.  They'll break up, reconcile, break up again - and all this time Lulu will be 'confused'.

3) I think Nick should (and probably will) give her a wide berth.  He will have to respect her decision, no matter how bad it was.  I would like, just once, to hear him say "Please take your problems somewhere else.  I can't help you." - I'd probably cheer.

4)  10 episodes will give Nick plenty of time to find someone else - and I would like to see a long term girlfriend, not just an affair or a series of one-night stands.  And it should be a strong enough relationship that WHEN Lulu comes running to Nick in tears he will have to say 'Sorry, too little too late.'  <br>
5) Maybe that relationship will break up by the end of the year - but not because of Lulu.  And she has to wait in the wings, miserable, in the meantime.  I just don't want Nick to be an easy 'catch' for her.  She doesn't deserve it.

6)  They might get together by the end of next season.

7)  Because the romance angle is on the backburner for a while, the show can concentrate on its original premise - the redemption of Nick.

I know this is all rather harsh (so I've been told elsewhere) but I don't think it would be realistic to throw Nick and Lulu together again too soon.  And I would really think less of Nick if he had an affair with her after she has been so callous to his feelings.

[JAGNikJen]

I heartily agree with your thoughts there...More Nick, more Nick...

[iconicsoup]

spunkymungbeans said:

2) In even the worst of marriages it usually takes about six months for the marriage to break down.  Let's say 22 eps = 1 year - I predict (hope) that she sticks with the marriage for at least 10 episodes.  I think that this is realistic.  We don't have any indication that Brian is going to doing anything drastic like beat her, so the breakdown will come from basic incompatibilities...

It occurred to me that Brian might turn out to be an abusive husband - just from the way Lulu said that he was very angry when she told him about her "slip".

This would mean that Nick would once again have to play her saviour, which I think could grow old fast. She needs a few storylines where she stands up for herself and triumphs, from the sound of it.

[Jennifer]

Good Lord! I hope Brian doesn't turn out to be abusive. I am not a fan of any show where they show men abusing women. Eeeeek! Lulu is so tiny and Brian is a big man, bigger than Nick. Anyway, I agree with iconic. I want Lulu to have to deal with Brian on he own and win without Nick's help. One thing though is that Brian and Lulu's marriage in going to break up sooner or later. It is a known fact that Brian is a male chauvinist and a cheater who wants the career driven Lulu to stay at home and pamper him. Why she married him is still a mystery to me. Too many loose ends in that finale; not only for Nick and Lulu, but mostly Nick. This is going to be a long summer.

[M.A.Y.]

If LuLu is back next season full-time, and she really is married to the Cad, and the writers introduce another romantic interest for Nick, I don't see that LuLu has much reason to be on the show.  Her character was introduced as a romantic/emotional foil for Nick, so if Nick isn't involved with her in a close & intimate way she really doesn't serve any purpose.  A love triangle with a married woman isn't a storyline I would look forward to.

After his experience with LuLu, Nick is likely to become even more emotionally repressed than he already is, so any new relationship would be like his old ones--no commitment just sex!
I know that some think that this marriage to the Cad is good for the show (i.e. increasing romantic tension) but I think the marriage (if it did happen...and I'm not convinced that it did) is a mistake for the plot.  Even if LuLu does leave the Cad, what's going to motivate her to choose Nick?  She doesn't know that much about him and once all the news breaks regarding the Mandy situation I dobut that this will make him more attractive to her...she did after all question his moral fibre.

Poor Nick, no friends and no girl!

[Eva_One]

Hi to All,

I too am a newbie here and owe a  special "thanks" to my two good friends Babe & Jezebel who have led me here. It only took full season to find you.  

Yes, I agree that the Writers dumped a lot thinking for us over the summer and left us reeling with "what's next" for Nick-- and-- how much more can he take without resorting resort back  to "that old bad habit."  

The news of Lulu's elopement (hope they do not write her out of the series) was a big disappointment
for me but  a minor compared to all the others.
Lots to think about --can't wait for what the Writers come up with.

Thanks to "The Guardian" for giving me a new focus because I too, like Babe & Jezebel am an avid fan of LaFemme Nikita even though cancelled.
I like it here & will be back.  

[Babe]

Hey there EvaOne,  Glad you found your way here.  Everyone is so helpful and the topics are great.  Makes me think of our old LFN days on the boards.  Like then, fans here have varied opinions on how the series should go.

I need to ask if the names of the writers are posted any special place.  I have to learn more about them, so I can straighten them out when they head in the wrong direction. ;D  

As far as that's concerned right now I don't even know which direction I want them to go, except I do want the leads, Nick and Lulu {if she stays", to be stronger, assertive and super positive of their every move.  

It just isn't right for them to present the star of the show as a wishy-washy  person most of the time.  Don't they know we are looking for a hero here, not a second banana.

Right now I adore Nick, but my love would wear thin if he was always being stepped on.  Let him win a few, will you guys?

Okay off the soapbox.  I thought Nick look very sexy in the ep where the detective had to have his jacket, shirt and tie and he walked around in that white undershirt and dark pants showing off his great build.  Even his gait was sexy, but then what do I know.  It's all a memory to me.

[iconicsoup]

M.A.Y. said:

If LuLu is back next season full-time, and she really is married to the Cad, and the writers introduce another romantic interest for Nick, I don't see that LuLu has much reason to be on the show.  Her character was introduced as a romantic/emotional foil for Nick, so if Nick isn't involved with her in a close & intimate way she really doesn't serve any purpose.  

James and Jake aren't on the show to be romantic interests for Nick (unless I'm missing something here...) so why does Lulu have to be?

I think her marriage opens up some interesting possibilities (and she *did* get married, she really did - although there's nothing to stop her organising an annulment over the summer). Can you still refuse to testify against your spouse these days? I'm thinking Brian might get into trouble and Lulu has a big crisis over whether or not to testify against him. And Nick tells her: "I don't care what the hell you do. Excuse me, I have a date tonight."

[annie]

Lulu :confused: is the only female lead, and we do need her.  There are plenty of story lines for her character -- whether or not she's married to what's his name.

I think she has the opportunity to get to know Nick better, which may revise her opinion of him as a potential love match. She will see how he handles all the challenges that were heaped on him in the final ep. (NF = Strong and resilient)

OT:  I usually get here so late, that no one else is on line, so this is fun.   ;D

[spunkymungbeans]

And Nick tells her: "I don't care what the hell you do. Excuse me, I have a date tonight."

Iconic, I live for it!

Of course Lulu still has a role even if Nick does see someone else.  I'm sure the URST will continue.  And remember the show is about redemption - and Lulu needs a lot of it (at least in our eyes).