Spoilers about burton and Ernie!

[Godis]

OK Bakergirl, I don't understand what you mean? You are telling us to sit back and let it take its course? Then there shouldn't be a reason for this board should there? Am I missing something?

[lynnlee22]

Count me in as a very confused lurker. I thought the point of this whole board was to have a good time and talk about things related to the show. Last time I checked, there were tons of threads on this board that focused on the actual storylines on the show. Perhaps you should look for those if that's what you're interested in. As for the fan fic, I really enjoy it, and I'm sure there are plenty of others that feel the same way. Otherwise the "Mommy Lulu and Daddy Nick" thread wouldn't have been viewed nearly as much.

In response to your actual post bakergirl....You most certainly have a right to your opinion, but it is far different from my own. I find it much more enjoyable to speculate on what might happen on the show, then to sit around and pick apart every detail of what actually happened. I don't think the fan fic spoils the show at all...far from it. It helps to pass the time in between the episodes and IMO it's quite good. Also, for what it's worth, I don't think the ideas are so "ahead of the plot". Their ideas make a lot of sense, and I sincerely hope they continue posting them. As far as your comment regarding character/actress pregnancy....I think everyone here understands that it's not a requirement for the actress to be pregnant in order for the character to be written as pregnant, and I'm a little confused as to why you felt the need to add that. At any rate, this is a public board and people can talk about anything they wish. If it is spoiling the show for you, perhaps you can just skip the thread. As for me, I'll be waiting with baited breath for the next installment. Keep it up you two!

[atotaltotalfan2001]

I agree that we're getting ahead of ourselves with all this speculation about Nick and Lulu. But that's the fun of it.......

Still, I'm sorry that all the talk has put a damper on someone's enjoyment of the show and this board....It was unintentional....just my way of goofing off, sort of.

[Liz]

I normally just lurk, but I thought something should be said...

As mentioned earlier, this is a public forum -- people should be able to express their thoughts, ideas, and opinions freely without fear of "ruining" the experience of a show for another.

If someone doesn't like what is being discussed, they can choose to skip it just as easily as the next poster can choose to read it.

Currently, we are all on a TG low and in need of a fix with only reruns and tapes (for some) to sustain us until the the next set of new episodes. I , for one, enjoy reading the fic and other posters' views about where the show could be headed -- much of the time they are refreshing possibilities that I might not have considered. Speculative they are, but who knows... some people might be hitting the nail right on the head.

This is just a show, and ultimately, all the decisions are made by just one man -- and that's David Hollander. He has given the fans a great base with the characters and the complexities of their intertwined lives, and no one should stop them from letting their imaginations run wild and picking up the plots and stories, continuing them as they see fit ...

[Jennifer]

bakergirl said:

Anyway, my point is - I think - that maybe we should just let the show take its course, and unfold the way DH is planning and enjoy it just like it is,......instead of running way ahead of the plot!
And so the story goes........

Okay, not sure I understood what you just said bakergirl. ???We have no control of the storylines here; only DH can do that, but this is a public message board and everyone speculates. The fun part is when we find out if all our speculations took place. Fanfic is exactly that. People enjoy writing for fun, some does it and test their creativity, others are probably doing it for school. DH can do whatever he wants to do with the show and he is doing a fantastic job. Of course my favorite is the Nick and LuLu storyline. If our fanfic writers here are going way over their head, then it's because it is fanfiction. It is suppose to be like that. JMHO

[cecilia]

atotaltotalfan2001 said:

Hi guys.


Anyway, this person directed us to this site. I guess you don't want this person doing PR for you. Something's not quite right there. Whoever it is probably cost you some members.

For the record: I loved the Nick and LuLu sex preview. Not that it matters, what with me being all dried up and whatever.....

...yes, I read and thought that didn´t represent me;
I did enjoy reading (and posting) at the yahoo! clubs, so I don´t see where that post intended to lead...was the idea to send N/LL fans to this site? ....if that ´d be the case, I´m sure anyone would like to do it, ´cause sounded sort of agresive....we are talking fiction and characters, not real people. I enjoy a lot the N/LL thread, but if next season she disappears I´ll keep watching the show....(yes, I admit it: because NOW they are going into that steamy-public sex)....and hope liking the next girlfriend....I like the show and nick...or nick and the show....and REALLY like these boards....all of them!...that´s why the first time I posted I told another fan that sometimes was weird(or odd) how personal(ly) the comments were taken.... when I started to feel iconic was going too far in her no liking LL, I just stopped reading the material I knew wouldn´t like....but keep lurking on the site, because I think she is smart and fun....it´s not personal...it´s just that we see things differently!
I love fanfiction, but for the same reason, choose to read rosiiii´s better than others´......we are grown up people, don´t spoil the fun taking that talk THAT seriously.....tv is just entertainment....
as for bakergirl....I don´t share, but maybe she was trying to prevent us all from falling down on May.....
well, bakergirl (and I LOVE that picture!) thanks a lot but we all have "parachutes" (again, don´t remember the word!)....

[bakergirl]

It seems everyone is missing the boat here,
but it's really not that complicated!
This board is indeed open to all people to post and express their opinions, and I'm trying to do just that, without offending anyone......which seems to be not that easy!

I think the fanfiction is great, and so are the writers, and for anyone to either read or skip. But it seems that now also spoilers turn into fan-fic stories and speculations about nothing else but Nick & LuLu, like nothing else happens on the show to talk about.

Anyone can say or read on this board as much as they desire, and that's why I gave my opinion - but with no intent to offend anyone - besides...... nobody seems to be that shy!


Personally, I liked this board because more actual things and news bits were being posted, instead of all the fiction! Oh, and I love the summaries by Gin!......and some very good reviews by other members of the board.

[cecilia]

bakergirl said:

Personally, I liked this board because more actual things and news bits were being posted, instead of all the fiction! Oh, and I love the summaries by Gin!......and some very good reviews by other members of the board.

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Hey, bakergirl....hope you like the people that post here.....I don´t know you, but like the things you say, and almost always agree with you....today, after watching intersection and MAIT(thanks totaltotal! ;D) I have even become a SB fan....his direction was great and he was terrific in both shows....I was probably going under a veryvery low nickfix ang getting picky with the guy....when saying didn´t like him that much

[lambertoise]

bakergirl said:

But it seems that now also spoilers turn into fan-fic stories and speculations about nothing else but Nick & LuLu, like nothing else happens on the show to talk about.

Personally, I liked this board because more actual things and news bits were being posted, instead of all the fiction! Oh, and I love the summaries by Gin!......and some very good reviews by other members of the board.

It is much easier to speculate about LuLu and Nick than imagining stories about children since there is no continuity between these (very interesting ) cases. We could also speculate about Burton and Fallin, but not that much, because not so many things can happen : they could split the business, or become real good pals (but Burton won't move in with Nick except if he is sick, maybe) anyway, this relationship as interesting and deep as it is cannot bring us on the uphills of our imagination.

This board is , this month particularly, necessary to fill the void : 3 whole weeks without any new TG! I may use my old tapes, but new episode's appeal is much stronger! So I please myself with the posts on this board and other boards.

It's fun and it's free : a very rare situation!

P.S.And Fan Fic writers, I am waiting for your generosity.

[jevees]

OK, maybe it´s true that we are fantasing a little more than the usual, but we have motives, at least the relationship between the main characters is moving on.. so ... well forgive us! ;D
Oh and I totally agree with Lambertoise... fan fic´s writters we are all waiting for your posts! Please!!

[lynnlee22]

Bakergirl, you didn't offend me, I just didn't quite understand your point. If you're upset because Nick and Lulu have become a main topic, then it might be best if you start another topic. I'm sure there are others who are interested in other topics, and that they would respond to your posts. I just simply don't understand why you are unhappy with the board. It doesn't make any sense to me that people should stop posting about their favorite characters or limit their posts for that matter. After all, it seems a lot more fair to me to have you skip posts that don't interest you, then to punish people that are interested in Nick and Lulu by not having many posts about them. I like this board b/c it represents the interests of many different groups of fans. I don't see any reason that should have to change

[cecilia]

atotaltotalfan2001 said:

Jeeves, when Barbara warned LuLu that Nick was going to be trouble, I thought she meant sexually, like he'd be after her all the time.
But you're right. He'll be trouble in other ways too.

Let me ask you something. Do you think of Nick as romantic?

I just ask because I've seen all the moony-eyed looks that Nick makes at LuLu, which is way romantic. But I don't see him as the type to take long walks on the beach etc.

totaltotal....after watching "intersection" for the second time....did barbara mean he´d be embarassed?...that cute face he makes in the car when LL tells him about the B&B.....he looks half cat-watching-the-fish-in-his-dish....half embarassed or puzzled by her being bold....
he certainly (IMO) wasn´t expecting this to happen.....
I LOVE THIS SHOW
other thing: could it be that her calling him "fast and loose" is referred to the law case they are facing (one against the other), and after leaving the guy LL is talking with, they end having sex at the bath in the courthouse?....spoilers not necessarily show the events in the right order....seems to me that Nick will be really turn on after she calling him that (probably in public)...
he told Brian LL was very passionate in court...didn´t he?!......

[jevees]

Cecilia, I think that the loose and fast thing is refering to Nick as a lawyer, they are in court and she is talking to a cient or a collegue so..... I don`t think she `s refering to the sex thing...
In this episode(What it means to you) Nick and LuLu are against each other in court so it possible she is trying to convince someone about something Nick said!
About the words that Barbara said, i think she was refering not only to the sex part, she was talking about his person... she once said to Amanda that Nick was always very serious and she asked what happened to him...
Well, I`m leaving now, see you around, fac fic`s writters we are still waiting for your posts! ;D

[atotaltotalfan2001]

You're funny, Cecilia! Nick's telling Brian that LuLu is passionate in court certainly takes on new meaning now that we're trying to piece together what the preview/trailer means......

And poor Brian. When he told Nick LuLu was a very passionate girl, I'm sure he never meant Nick to find that out on a first-hand basis.

Still, I have to admit I never really saw LuLu as passionate. I know she kind of lost it in court a few times....but in a personal way, I never say her as passionate (except in Rosiii's fan fics....which I absolutely love).

But maybe Nick is meant to be the first man to bring out what in the past was a repressed passionate nature on Lulu's part. Let's face it: Nick has that effect on women...

I wonder if doing sex in public places with Nick is more an experiment -- after all those years of being the good girl who was going to marry a doctor -- as opposed to an expression of her simmering passionate nature.

Guess we'll see. I can hardly wait. I love it when Nick in naughty.

About the preview: Can't make heads or tails of it!Maybe the gun shot has to do with Mary Gressler? She dies in one of these episodes

[Linda Wilson]

TotalTotal:

I reviewed the preview for perhaps the 16th time (I really don't get along with RealPlayer, but maybe it's me--I have to learn more about it) and I'm not sure I heard a gun shot. They seem to like dramatic drum rim shots in the previews, or perhaps it's the sound of a door slamming. I just don't know. There does seem to be one scene of Burton and Nick in a morgue room with what could be Mary Gresler's body lying on a post mortem exam table.

If I remember correctly from "Family," Liz' house has those six-panel doors pained high-gloos white and it's possible Jeremy's room has an "Authorized Personnel Only" sign on it--it would be typical of an adolescent of either gender. That does sound like Shannon's voice saying "stop it" and my guess is Burton brought his new possession over to Liz' house to show her off, Shannon and Jeremy decided the grownups' converation was boring and retired to his room to look at his model airplanes or something. Shannon being Shannon, it's possible she took the lead. In any event, it does seem as if that's Jeremy being restrained in the courthouse corridor and calling for Nick.

Then again, if the previews for the February sweeps are any indication, we're being encouraged to look at the chandelier for the stolen jewelry while the thief (DH--I'm speaking allegorically) hides the swag in the fireplace. My point is, you just can't tell. Looks like Nick and LL got some kind of enjoyment out of the business, anyway. And that role reveral with Nick telling Burton to get his head back into the firm (and out of wherever it is!) was a switch from Burton telling Nick the same thing in Season I, but what it fortends can't be determined at this point.

I like a certain amount of mystery in the previews--it would be boring if they emptied the whole bag before the eps even aired--but I don't like feeliing I'm being toyed with. The respect for the intelligence of its audience this show always displayed seems to have fallen off of late. It's disappointing.

Linda Wilson