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Post by Jennifer on Apr 22, 2003 22:04:31 GMT -5
First of all, let me just say that I love this episode. :)It was worth the wait. What can I say, Nick and LuLu were great. I just love these characters. Many had said from another board that it was LuLu who isn't serious about a relationship with Nick. Well, in this episode, it was LuLu who expressed that she wants more than a roll in the hay. When she cooked dinner for Nick and took him inside the bedroom, her disappointment was written all over her pretty face when Nick looked uncomfortable sleeping in the same bed she shared with Brian. I loved it when she said, "we both have a past and we can have sex in a public toilet and church basement, but we can't have sex in a comfortable bed?" Nick trully has issues, IMO and I'm pleased that they are addressing it right now. He seemed afraid of being too intimate with LuLu, the woman he supposedly cares about. I also think that he looks at her with such desire and passion. I don't know where this storyline is heading, but I'm afraid that both will get hurt.  Wild guess! Lastly, Wendy Moniz (LuLu) looks absolutely beautiful in this episode; make up, hair, etc. And Simon looks gorgeous as usual. The way Nick looks at LuLu in this episode is enough to make me melt. Thoughts anyone?  |
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Post by cecilia on Apr 22, 2003 22:13:58 GMT -5
(are you the same Jennifer of yahoo!?.....I posted there waiting for "yours" or "not yours" comments...) Please, keep going with this!.....everybody has a different point and sees different things....and until I get to see it (if total:angel2:total has taped...) is gonna be a long time....  |
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Post by Jennifer on Apr 22, 2003 22:21:49 GMT -5
(are you the same Jennifer of yahoo!?.....I posted there waiting for "yours" or "not yours" comments...) Please, keep going with this!.....everybody has a different point and sees different things....and until I get to see it (if total  total has taped...) is gonna be a long time.... Yes, Cecilia it was me. I wanted to post about the episode in general, but I can't get over the Nick and LuLu scenes. They were fabulous. Will comment on the rest of the episode soon as I organize my thoughts. There are other interesting storylines besides Nick and LuLu. But Cecilia, Nick and LuLu can't get enough of each other.  |
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Post by cecilia on Apr 22, 2003 22:29:05 GMT -5
:thud: ........ :thud: ........ :thud: ........... and where is rosiiiii?.....has she recovered from tonight´s episode, or is she still at the ER of the local hospital?....  |
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Post by LaraB on Apr 23, 2003 8:25:33 GMT -5
Well, aside from all the sex (the term "rabbits" comes to mind), that last N/L was hot as H-E-double hockey sticks! Woo-wee! Did anyone else get butterflies in their stomach when he quickly puts his hand on the door to keep from opening it then softly whispers in her ear and kisses her on the neck?  I know I've watched that scene about 4 times already. The other N/L scenes were great too although a little more raw, but that last made me weak all over! |
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Post by Lisa on Apr 23, 2003 8:49:36 GMT -5
I am so happy with this episode. Finally we see two happy people. I agree that he looks at her with such passion. If he looked at me this way, WOW, melt. I also loved the door scene. Made the hair on my neck stand up. He informs her at this time he does not have intimacy issues and I agree that there are surely some issues going on, but would you really want to share the same bed that she shared with Brian who slept with hookers? The next episode looks like a winner too. Keep them coming!
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Post by lambertoise on Apr 23, 2003 12:18:56 GMT -5
I have watched this episode only twice. Which is clearly not enough. I'll need some more during the next days to feel better. As many others stated already, many scenes were worth the waiting. The best of the best for me? The « I don't have intimacy issues»  after trying to look OK with LuLu's withdrawing. And the sweet kisses and smiles in the church, symbolic place of love. Oh, the tenderness of these scenes! Another favourite : Laurie meeting the son of the foster parent- to-be. Nick was so stunned and upset! Even if he stood by his father. The creepy policeman? Sometimes repressed persons use religion to hide behind. It seems that Davenport had an imbibed past. Pretty Claire just got through his poor defenses. But I don't get what was the point of this storyline. I don't know either what to make of Burton and Shannon but I did love Nick's comment about the sister he always wanted...!  About LuLu's feelings for Nick, I think the hurt we saw on her face when Nick said he was tired ( with a headache maybe?) and the delight she showed in the church and when Nick gently kisses her neck demonstrate she has real feelings for him ( or is it me doing some wishful thinking?) Now, as someone wrote previously, DH knows how to surprise us. Never the simplest road for the characters, but tortuous paths that will lead we can't know where. How can we not LOVE that show? |
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Post by Jeannie on Apr 23, 2003 13:34:29 GMT -5
I know what you mean Lambertoise. As I watched this episode I thought I saw LuLu's feelings for Nick developing. Her features softened, there was definite chemistry there. I think he has always made his feelings about LuLu abundantly clear where she has been very ambivalent in response. I said before, somewhere, that I thought it was a realistic progression in their relationship given the past hot and cold response by LuLu. To go straight to the candles, romance "I'm so in love" scenario would have been hard to take. LuLu chose to get married only a few months ago and has had a long-term, committed relationship end in a nasty way. I would find it hard to believe that she would move immediately to another committed relationship. She is sexually attracted and acted on that but her words in the beginning of the episode reflect her ambivalence about Nick the person. I still don't see her as emotionally involved as Nick but I did see the beginnings. I don't see Nick as having intimacy issues, I think he knows LuLu is on the rebound from Brian and maybe acting recklessly and out of character and doesn't want to be reminded of that by sharing what to him is Brian's space.
I see Burton as trying to help Shannon as a sort of penance or redemption for how he failed Nick at the same age.
I didn't get the point of Davenport either, other than to develop the character of Clair and her interactions with Burton. I don't trust Clair but it will remain to be seen if I am right about her or not.
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Post by Rosiiii1 on Apr 23, 2003 14:09:51 GMT -5
I so agree. The church stuff was oh-sooo-sweet.
I also liked the end-scene, and way in which Lulu tells him she thinks he needs to work out his "intimacy issues," when he says "So you don't want to do this anymore?" Nick had a look on his face, like he knew she wouldn't be able to say no, and she didn't. LOL ;D But she does tell him, (paraphrasing) that he "seems to have difficulty in normal situations -- like, bedrooms." The way she said it was hilarious -- it was a sweet, teasing kind of 'you're weird,' phrasing. He was just eating it up, and said -- "okay whatever you want." Then he catches her at the door...and ((((THUD))))
Sigh.....swoooooon!
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Post by lambertoise on Apr 24, 2003 9:12:03 GMT -5
Anyone else's tape melt in the video recorder? No, Just myself! ;D ;D Anyway, about this diagnosis «intimacy issues» (which I hear for the first time) is it accurate? Is it possible that Nick suffers more or less of a more classical syndrom, the fear of engagement? Or could his reluctance to accomplish what he dreamed of be the result of the friendly (!) conversation Lulu said they just had? This headache ( or I'm tired) business worries me. Fortunately, the kissing that followed at LSP behind the locked door, brings me hope. |
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Post by Jennifer on Apr 24, 2003 9:41:23 GMT -5
No, Just myself! ;D ;D Anyway, about this diagnosis «intimacy issues» (which I hear for the first time) is it accurate? Is it possible that Nick suffers more or less of a more classical syndrom, the fear of engagement? Or could his reluctance to accomplish what he dreamed of be the result of the friendly (!) conversation LuLu said they just had? This headache ( or I'm tired) business worries me. Fortunately, the kissing that followed at LSP behind the locked door, brings me hope. Nick has trouble opening up his feelings. We saw that time and time again with the way he deals with his father. Now, with the woman he has wanted for a long time, I don't see him changing in a flash. It is possible that when he is alone with LuLu, in a private situation, it might force him to open up. Unlike in relationships with other women like Kim, he was in a comfortable bed and seemed more intimate, but that was it. He didn't have any feelings for her; no strings attached. With LuLu, he obviously has feelings for her and he might be seen an too emotional. Don't know if that makes sense.  Ugh! I still can't forget the look of disappointment in LuLu's face when suddenly Nick said he is tired. But he redeemed himself when he kissed her tenderly that night and twice. |
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Post by jevees on Apr 24, 2003 11:16:37 GMT -5
Jennifer and lambertoise, i totally agree with your posts.... Nick´s suffer a BIG problem to compromise, of course , it´s natural, when he was 12 he felt he was alone, his mother died his father sent him away, and from that moment the only one who he can count on was with himself.... I´m pretty sure that he is scare to depend emocionaly of someone, i still remember when he said to Alvin that he didn´t need anyone.... Poor guy! I just think he is scare to open himself and get hurt not only with woman, his doesn´t talk to his father either, and lets face it B is not the most chatting guy on earth, so when they have to talk about something personal they start mumbling and well they don´t know how to comunicate!(Sometimes i feel that Nick thinks his father doesn´t listen to him and that it´s useless to talk to him, the tipical, FORGET WHAT I SAID OR IT DOESN´T MATTER) Going back to the fear of commitement I think he should deal first with the idea that if he does open up he can be hurt but also he can have a real connection with the others, he always run off when someone is getting to close....  |
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Post by cecilia on Apr 24, 2003 19:25:50 GMT -5
Well, what scares me here is that I know for experience that guys with intimacy issues usually are nuts hard to crack, and more than often girls have heartbreakings...and after Brian I think Lulu needs some confidence, love and tenderness, not only wild sex. (wild sex doesn´t hurt....it´s just that sometimes is not enough.....)....poor Nick doesn´t have a clue on open up: "they got a wall in china....it´s a thousand miles long....to keep up the foreigners they made it strong....and I´ve got a wall around me, that you can´t even see...it took a little time to get next to me " ....
and that´s my song for this week!:rockband:
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Post by cecilia on Apr 25, 2003 20:07:48 GMT -5
...or maybe my song for this week should be: " I got this burning feeling inside me , deep inside me and it hurts so bad. You came into my life so tenderly with a burning love that stings like a bee. Now that I surrender so helplessly you now wanna leave me, you wanna leave me..... before you won my heart you were a perfect guy..but now that you got me, you wanna leave me behind...! well, I´m probably moody tonight. My vcr isn´t working and I just watched the tape totaltotal sent me twice... ....................................................................in fact, I ´m in a very bad mood....:cussing:... for the lyrics, that´s what I got....I´m not sure it´s right!.... |
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Wild guess! Lastly, Wendy Moniz (LuLu) looks absolutely beautiful in this episode; make up, hair, etc. And Simon looks gorgeous as usual. The way Nick looks at LuLu in this episode is enough to make me melt. Thoughts anyone?
I know I've watched that scene about 4 times already. 
after trying to look OK with LuLu's withdrawing. And the sweet kisses and smiles in the church, symbolic place of love. Oh, the tenderness of these scenes! 
Ugh! I still can't forget the look of disappointment in LuLu's face when suddenly Nick said he is tired. But he redeemed himself when he kissed her tenderly that night and twice.