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Post by pattycake on Apr 30, 2003 17:56:51 GMT -5
I've been reading posts on this board and those on sbol. I have refrained from posting anything on sbol for fear of getting "beat up" (What can i say--i'm a wimp!  ) I just want to make a comment about some posts that expressed concern over Nick and how he's been 'happy' lately. I know everyone including myself luv seeing Nick-angst, but this guy I would like to think is appealing because this a multi-dimensional character. He has problems. Yes he is emotionally detached NOT emotion-less. So to see this side of him is nice to see for now. I think DH is smart enough to do this near the end of the season as oppose to earlier on (ie. You Belong to Me). Personally, it think DH is just teasing us *LOL*. But I do believe it was time to kinda time to i dunno address this situation behind the Nick an LuLu pairing. I don't think he was keen on dragging this for another season making googly eyes at each other. Had he waited a while longer it would've just been a distraction to the whole show--kinda like what Alias' Syd and Vaughn if ya know what i mean..... By establishing that they are a couple opens the door to other storyline possiblilibites. Not only do you have the dynamics between father and son but the relationship between man and woman as well! So You can find peace knowing that we still haven;t been let in his bed room. So this is still the TG doing it best giving us meaningfull drama each week!! pattycake |
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Post by cassidy on Apr 30, 2003 19:02:13 GMT -5
Pattycake, I couldn't agree with you more. I, too like nick-angst but I think it's time to see Nick look "happy" for once, as we've seen him last nite. If this man's life continue to have full of angst, I'm afraid he'll go into depression   and the next thing we knew he's ordered to see a psychiatrist. Remember mental illness runs in their family.heh heh heh ;D  |
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Post by Niki C on Apr 30, 2003 19:17:58 GMT -5
I prefer Nick angst myself, of the variety we saw in the first season and, for the most part, in the second season.
Although Tuesday's episode felt very un-TG to me (lack of angst, lack of any kind of conflict for Nick, lack of any LSOP clients, or even F&F clients for that matter), I think the series will regain it's balance.
I've read several posts speculating that DH made Nick so happy in this episode because he intends to pull the rug out from under him......making the slide back into angst more jarring. I really hope so.
I liked seeing Nick happy. He was adorable -- but not compelling. That's the part of Nick I missed in this episode.
atotaltotalfan
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Post by lambertoise on Apr 30, 2003 21:33:34 GMT -5
In this episode, maybe we got to meet the guy whose mother said that he would treat women better than his father did(Causality). We also had the pleasure to enjoy his very special sense of humour like when he surprises LuLu with the poetry reading .She asked him for a date, and also specified : Surprise me! That, he did. I really, really like this kind of low key humour. Nick was also having great fun about Alvin's big mouth, grinning like a kid proud of himself.
The apron scene? Nick wasn't fooled a minute by the meaning of the apron : and he accepted quite gracefully, because he knows that this woman wants to make clear he is hers but since he badly wants this woman to be his...(Isn't she the lucky one?) Then he might also be his father's son : remember Burton's apron in Privilege? He didn't look bad either.
And the giggling betwenn LuLu and Nick while they were going, no, running upstairs? Yes, despite her very ugly frilly shirt , the color red suits her, and Nick clearly doesn' mind she has no taste for her clothes.
Only one thing bothered me in this episode I really appreciate otherwise. It's about Jake's story's timeline. It doesn't work. We are supposed to think he left for his cabin on poetry night and it seems, with the events - Jeremy's attempted suicide the same night, and the day after, Nick visiting him and announcing that tomorrow there will be the hearing - it makes at least two nights between Jake's departure for his cabin and his return. But when he comes to LuLu's house (how did he learn about the party?), he still has the same clothes, the food and only one night sleep in his fabulous cabin.
Anyway, it's not really important, it just bothered me a little, and I was glad that Nick quicly understood Jake needed some good time!
And I don't worry one bit about Nick not being Nick any more. This merrier episode was there to break the rythm, to bring light on another side of the character and to destabilize the audience before the hit in the next two weeks.
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Post by Jennifer on May 1, 2003 7:16:25 GMT -5
Pattycake, I couldn't agree with you more. I, too like nick-angst but I think it's time to see Nick look "happy" for once, as we've seen him last nite. If this man's life continue to have full of angst, I'm afraid he'll go into depression and the next thing we knew he's ordered to see a psychiatrist. Remember mental illness runs in their family.heh heh heh ;D An angst filled Nick is good to watch, but I would like to see his happy side as well. I have to admit that the angst side is kind of redundant and so I did enjoy Burton and Ernie. Nick appeared relaxed and seemed to enjoy spending time with friends/co workers, and of course, his LuLu. Though the Nick/LuLu scenes were limited in this episode, I enjoyed it because we get to see this domestic side of Nick. Kudos to Mr. Hollander and Co. |
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Post by cassidy on May 1, 2003 11:33:54 GMT -5
Nick appeared relaxed and seemed to enjoy spending time with friends/co workers, and of course, his LuLu. Though the Nick/LuLu scenes were limited in this episode, I enjoyed it because we get to see this domestic side of Nick. Kudos to Mr. Hollander and Co. AS we say in the real world...........HE HAS A LIFE.woohooo!!!  |
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Post by jevees on May 1, 2003 12:02:21 GMT -5
Jennifer i agree, i think he deserves a little of happiness, poor guy just give him one episode to show that beautiful smile! ;D O.K. Now, i still don`t get the Jake`s story line maybe in the next episodes or next season?, and he is the one who needs a life!!  I still would like Burton to pay a little more attention to his real son, so he can understand he is the only one who doesn`t know Nick has a girlfriend and he is happy! Can you believe this!  |
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Post by cecihz on May 1, 2003 13:27:05 GMT -5
AS we say in the real world...........HE HAS A LIFE.woohooo!!! or maybe the angst is coming back because he is pretending he has a life?.......  ......naaaaaa, he does! ....I love smiling nick, and suffering nick, and angry nick, and sad nick, and...,and....,and....  |
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Post by jevees on May 1, 2003 13:32:38 GMT -5
or maybe the angst is coming back because he is pretending he has a life?....... ......naaaaaa, he does! ....I love smiling nick, and suffering nick, and angry nick, and sad nick, and...,and....,and.... ME TOO, CECILIA, I LOVE HIM ALL.. ;D Till that beautiful blonde hair to those perfect feet, ohh yeah  |
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Post by lambertoise on May 2, 2003 7:44:14 GMT -5
I still would like Burton to pay a little more attention to his real son, so he can understand he is the only one who doesn`t know Nick has a girlfriend and he is happy! Can you believe this! Oh, yes I can believe it. Around me, sons working with their father aren't the trend! Nick is about 33, (I think) so a grown up man, and since he is not usually, with anybody, the talkative one, it is not a surprise he doesn't speak about his love life to his father. I like the Burton/Nick story, but IMO, the story can't be so much focused on this relationship. I know many people think it should be the main focus, but this parent/child issue is more believable with a teenage kid. I appreciate all the Burton and Nick scenes when I see them, and I think we see them just enough. I'd like to see more about the addiction issue and one or two AA meetings ' My name is Nick and I'm a drug addict!'I will never have too much of LuLu and Nick interacting . The same with Nick and the children. The conversation he had with Shannon was great. First, he was bothered. Then he smiled when she told him Burton wanted her to go to that private school, then amused because she asked him to do her homework, and serious talking about Mandy. I like the way the writers make him interacting with the kids. He takes them seriously, he is not condescending and when he is not interested, he doesn't act as if he was. |
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Post by niki c on May 2, 2003 21:08:10 GMT -5
Thank you. That is a point that is rarely made. Nick never talks down to the kids he represents....he seems to understand their plight, which is, in the end, the point of The Guardian.
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Post by cecilia on May 2, 2003 21:18:37 GMT -5
;D....really good posts, Lamber!....and for me, yes, I dont wanna see more burton/nick interaction...but more burton acting like a father once in a while. And, as you do, I really want to see Nick saying those words...I have posted ALOT about it everywhere...I think this is the big issue; and I´ve remembered nick and that guy(paternity) talking about the pills in college...so, it is more than cocaine , and many years of using drugs. Has anybody seen CBSpreview?....I dont get a word of MrVO or anything they say....can anybody transcript it, please?..... ;D |
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and the next thing we knew he's ordered to see a psychiatrist. Remember mental illness runs in their family.heh heh heh ;D 
......naaaaaa, he does!