Daddy Nick & Mommy Lulu?

[Rosiiii1]

From a recent chat - thought the speculation might be fun! ;D

(Names have been altered to protect the wishful thinkers..hee)

R: Remember this Simon Baker quote:

"It blew me out that a perfectly formed little person can come from such a simple, yet intimate, moment. How many people make love to get their rocks off without being spiritually moved by the potential to create human life? We all take sex for granted."

Now, I've got to wonder if this isn't exactly where DH is taking Nick..and us.

J: It makes sense, and I keep seeing that line from the article where DH said if there was a season three, big things would happen -- fatherhood certainly fits that description, esp. if its done in sort of a disfunctional kind of way, such as a very broken and strained relationship with Nick and Lulu, further impairing Nick's relationship with Burton, and his ties to LSOP

R: Yes, because after all...."big things," have already happened in season 2...Nick's been in jail, Lulu has gotten married, Burton has been ill and Nick's taken care of him...short of death (and we've almost had that too with the car wreck) the only thing left...

...is BIRTH. ;-)

*This is when we really get going with some scenarios - don't know how many glasses of wine we've had at this point....

R: Yes, that would just seal it. If DH wanted to really torture us, he could have Lulu and Nick battle for custody. But I do not want to go there - it would literally lay me low, to see them degenerate to such an extent. That can come in the 4th season, if it never does. LOL

J: Caroline tells Lulu not to trust Nick, he hurt her before, he'll do it again -- she should try and keep the baby... it turns into a family war, Nick has to prove himself worthy all around...

J: Burton blames Caroline for starting problems, and Caroline blames Burton for being such a shitty father to Nick, he tells her she apparently wasn't much of a mother to Louisa -- things get ugly and they vow to fight each other till the end, meanwhile, Nick struggles to maintain a role in Lulu and his child's life, despite new interference from a handsome new lawyer at LSOP, filling his place now that his hours have been fulfilled.

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And awaaaayyy we gooooo...... :-)

[Rosiiii1]

More of the anonymous chatter's dialogues:

R:I have a feeling LuLu is not on the pill, and that Nick won't have any protection on one or two of their public schtupping encounters. In fact, I now think this whole extreme PDA (Extreme Public Displays of Affection) thing is to set up an unintended pregnancy storyline.

LuLu:Hi.
Nick: (glances up, and back down again smiling)Hey.
LuLu:Nick, uh...I need to talk to you.
Nick: Yeah?
LuLu:I-I'm late.
Nick:For what? (head down, doing paperwork in broom closet) You need a ride somewhere?
LuLu: (heh) No Nick, not that kind of "late."

Hahahaha.

J:I mean, as you said before, they aren't exactly teenagers in the back of Burton's Cadillac <G>

R: Nope! That's why it would have to be a set-up like this. If they just had the usual, i.e., dinner, date, movie, then sex at his/her place kind of encounters...forgetting birth control would be unlikely and stupid - they are adults.

Nick: (eyes wide, kinda scared looking))Uh..maybe it's nothing. That's..er possible isn't it? (swallows hard)
LuLu: I doubt it. You can set clocks by me.

J:LuLu hates the fact that she cannot even pinpoint the location of conception, let alone the idea as to why any contraception was never brought up...

R: LMAO ahaha.

J: Nick: (swallowing hard, his heart is racing)
Hmm... women's bathroom at the courthouse? women's bathroom at The Incline? Nick's BMW? his office at Fallin?
the couch in the bull pen at LSOP? her own vehicle (if she is in fact driving again yet) the elevator at LSOP? her office at LSOP? the coat room at the restaurant where Nick was supposed to have dinner with a client before meeting LuLu for drinks - the possibilities are endless.....

R: Muahahaha...love it. I see Nick wanting to "do right," by her immediately, as he feels he's contributed to Saint Louisa's (haha Joan Osbourne song) downfall and feels really guilty.

J: He wants to polish her halo <G>

R: He's further chagrined then, when she tells him it's not necessary, that she doesn't want him doing it because he feels obligated. Hmmm....Oh yes DH please bring this on. ;D

By the way...a thought just occurred to me..."The Intersection" waiting room...Caroline telling Nick not to pace....foreshadowing for a Fallin birth?

Also, I picture a scenario of LuLu fainting at LSP scaring everyone to death, being rushed to the hospital - everyone thinking she's had a relapse and that it has to do with her brain injury from the accident - a nervous Nick waits again in the hallways of the hospital, cursing himself for treating her like he has, when the doc walks out, slaps him on the back...

Doc: (smiling broadly) Congratulations! You're gonna be a dad!

muahahahaha

J: Nick: Whhhhhhhhat? (bewildered)

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[Sarah]

Hmm... Nick angst, and what better person to deliver it than Lulu -- I love it

(back at the hospital)
Dr: Congratulations, you're going to be a Dad.
N: (bewildered) Whhhhhhat?
Dr: Louisa is doing fine, she was just a little light headed -- her body is going through a lot of changes right now, after the accident and then...
N: Its not (stutters as he organizes his thoughts) it wasn't a relapse?
Dr: No, not at all (takes another look at Nick as he sits down on one of the hard plastic waiting room chairs) are you all right?
N: Yeah, yeah...fine, its just not the news I was expecting...
Dr: (gently pats Nick on the shoulder) if all goes well, you two can expect a healthy baby this winter, February...
N: (nods) right...can I, go see her?
Dr: Of course, you'll be free to take her home in a couple of hours -- we just want to keep her a little longer for observation
N: (gets up from the chair) okay...

C: (doors swing open, in she storms) Oh my God, Nick, where is she? (sees the doctor) what's going on?
N: (looks up, takes a deep breath) I'm going to see her now...
C: (her heart is racing) Is everything all right? I got your message and I came straight here...
N: (wipes his sweating brow) yeah, everything is fine...
C: (eyes peering through him) what aren't you telling me? (grabs the doctor's arm) Please, tell me... Oh, God, how bad is it?
Dr: No, its nothing like that (looks to Nick and back to Caroline), she's going to be okay, Mr. Fallin is just going in to see her now.
C: (objecting) but she's my daughter! (turns to Nick) what the hell is going on?
Dr: I'll leave you two...(walks away)
C: I'm going to see my daughter...

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L: (relieved to be okay, but disappointed by who she sees) Mom?
C: (forces a smile) I came as soon as Nick called me, I was so worried about you...
L: (a little shaky, nervous) I really need to talk to Nick, Mom.
C: He's outside waiting, they're only letting us in one at a time you now -- and as your mother, I felt that...
L: (biting her lip) Mom, I need to talk to him...
C: (sets her handbag on the nearby table, and sits down on the edge of the bed) trust me, Louisa, he's not going anywhere...
L: Its really important (wishing if ever a time for her mother to take the hint, it would be now)
C: What's going on? (looks at Lulu, knows there's something not being said) Louisa? ...

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[Rosiiii1]

Cont... --

J:Nick, in love more than ever with LuLu, is essentially paralyzed after sex -- having no idea how to implement his limited range of emotions to take it further

R: I don't recall her exact words as I was spazzing too much...she said it paralyzes you? was she speaking of herself?

Exactly...I can see that -he wouldn't know what to do? How to make her happy, outside of sex, not knowing that he's essentially been doing it all along.

R:i.e., the caring, being concerned, looking out for - and helping in general.

J:she said "you're paralyzed" (very general, applicable to all lawyers, including herself, but namely Nick)
also, Nick is paralyzed with his inherent fear of failure, as you said, not knowing (perhaps due to her sometimes faucet like hot/cold responses) that he has been "hitting the right key" all along...

R:I have to remember too that Nick so far has told LuLu only that--
"I ...wanted to be with you."
"I really...care about you."
Let's see has he said anything else approximating his feelings at all? To hear some talk, LuLu should know how Nick feels and show all her cards in return....but she's insecure herself and has issues, I'm not going to say she needs it written out in the sky...but pretty damn close, given all her issues as well...plus having not experienced love herself.

J: Precisely why I think a child added in at this point would be ideal, not that I think its the solution to problems, but because it would literally force those two to grow up and see what they have

R:Yes, I think a baby would be an excellent way to make Nick examine himself and would force him to bare himself and his emotions in ways he can't with Burton or LuLu. It would also make Burton hit the roof, seeing an heir of his as 'illegitimate,' and not in the Fallin fold - he could pester Nick about marriage and really get on his nerves.

Burton: (growls)This is ridiculous Nicholas.
Nick:I've asked her already I told her.
Burton:Well ask her again dammit! I won't have a grandchild of mine growing up a bastard.

R:Nick:would you get off it?
B:No, how do you know Louisa won't just up and leave with your son?
N:She wouldn't.
B:How do you know that Nicholas?
N:I know her.

J: Burton: Nonsense, absolute nonsense...
N: I can't make her marry me...
B: What does her mother say about all this?
N: Caroline, eh..
B: Well?
N: No... not a good example, Dad

One has to wonder if DH has been thinking of a "baby story" all along -- aside from Nick's unfailing love, one of the most recurring themes with LuLu has been, well, babies...whether she's thinking about having one, forcing a pot-head, teen mother to hold one, recusing herself from the case of one...it seems to have been "in the cards"

R:Yes, I know...they've already shown, she wants to be a Mom we know - they've made her particularly maternal. Plus, introducing Caroline - who knows the inside scoop (that the two have strong feelings for each other) the storyline just seems to be ripe for it -- Burton & Caroline angst over a yet unborn grandbaby. Perfect.

R:I see N&LL issues bringing those two (Burton & Caroline) together in some fashion - maybe not in a good way at first, but eventually.


J:Burton: You need to talk to your daughter.
Caroline: What? Why?
B: (looks around, in hushed tones) Nicholas asked her to marry him, and she had the nerve to tell him no.
C: Well, if he's anything like you, I cannot hardly blame her...
B: All differences aside, we've got to do something about these two.
C: You think I'm happy about having a nearly 30 year old daughter as an unwed mother? Not hardly.

J: Burton: I won't have an illegitimate grandson.
C: Who said that?
B: The law says that if those two don't get married
C: No, not that -- that it was a grandson, I didn't hear that...
B: Well, if you were around a bit more...
C: Oh, you're a fine one to talk, Burton...
B: Listen, I'm not trying to start anything here - but the family name and reputation are at stake

R: LMAO!!! That is great! I see Burton trying to enlist Caroline's aid in just that way! haha

J:Caroline: Do you know who you are talking to?
B: Sorry...
C: The last thing my daughter is out to do is cause trouble for you and Nicholas, believe me, but you have to understand...
B: The one thing I understand is that I won't have a grandchild without my family's name on his birth certificate
C: There you go again...
B: (snarls) what?
C: Assuming its a boy, you know -- I hope Nicholas and Louisa have a girl, they are perfectly capable, if not more so, than boys in many aptitudes...

J: Burton: Oh, Christ Caroline...
C: Burton, you want a grandchild, so do I -- were going to have one... can't you just be happy with that?
B: I'd be happier knowing...
C: Marriage isn't all its cracked up to be.
B: Nicholas has never been
C: I'd like to think that Louisa wasn't.
B: Why won't she say yes to him?
C: As if she talks to me?

R: LMAO...man, Rita/Caroline hasn't even been on that long and you've nailed her.

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[cecilia]

Rosiiii, Sarah.....I just LOVE this ff....please, keep going!
:biglaugh:

[cecilia]

I´m an ignorant.....what does
LMAO mean?......

[jevees]

cecilia said:

I´m an ignorant.....what does
LMAO mean?......

i don`t have a clue................i`m an ignorant too

[Rosiiii1]

Hi guys!

LMAO means: "Laughing My Ass Off!"

...and if it's really funny you can ROFLMAO, which is "Rolling On the Floor Laughing My Ass Off."

Rosiiii

[cassidy]

HI! Newbie here....

Rosiii and Sarah, I'm LOL ;D reading this so called "conversation". You guys really know the show and the characters. You are right on target with all the words that could come out from each characters mouth.


BRAVO!

[jevees]

Rosiiii1 said:

Hi guys!

LMAO means: "Laughing My Ass Off!"

...and if it's really funny you can ROFLMAO, which is "Rolling On the Floor Laughing My Ass Off."

Rosiiii

Thanksss, they are great... good abreviatures!`I really like them! ;D

[Sarah]

Hi Cassidy!
Welcome to the board and thanks for the compliment.

(Burton and Caroline, sitting together at the bar at Incline -- she's drinking vodka on the rocks, he has whiskey)

B: What are we going to do about this?
C: (scoffs) we?
B: (in a huff) well, Louisa is your daughter .
C: Yes, she is my daughter, my recently divorced daughter -- I think she's quite enjoying her independence.
B: (shakes his head) she should have thought of that before...
C: (waves her hand in objection) oh no, Burton Fallin, don't you dare try and put this on Louisa -- your son is just as responsible as she is...
B: (takes a heavy swig from the half-empty tumbler, correcting her) my son is trying to do the right thing.
C: (eyes widen with fury, takes a sip of her vodka) you think I don't want Louisa to be married, to be happy?
B: Well, (pauses, is quite exasperated by the argument, looks over his shoulder and almost whispers) you certainly don't seem to be pushing her in that direction...
C: You've changed, Burton (sizes him up) you used to be a much more sensible man.
B: (looks at her, agitated) how am I not being sensible?
C: (reckoning from experience) I've told you, Burton, sometimes marriage just isn't the answer
B: (mumbling under his breath) yeah, trial by fire...


(a few days later, at F&F)

C: (sits down across from Burton in his office) I get the feeling this has nothing to do with my legal woes..
B: (pushes the folder he was perusing toward the edge of his desk)I was thinking we could discuss...
C: (feigning excitement) Oh great! Round 2...
B: Caroline (takes a deep breath, rubs his forehead) I'm being serious now...
C: (nods in agreement, but emphasizes) and so am I...
B: (hesitates) I'm concerned about the welfare of my grandchild...
C: (scoffs) what? are you saying that my daughter would do something to..
B: (waves his hands in dismissal) no, no, no -- of course not, you know that I don't have any problem with Louisa -- hell, I damn near hired her myself...
C: (snappish) so what is your problem?
B: Well, (hemming and hawing) its more about security, and stability... long term.
C: Oh, Burton, (holier than thou) just say it -- its the power of the almighty Fallin dollar.
B:(trying to be realistic, without seeming too informed) Louisa has just been through a divorce, she's selling her home, she's terribly underpaid at Legal Services...
C: Burton, I will tell you two things about my daughter (clears her throat) 1. she is not like me, she does and will not marry for financial gain, and 2. she will not be bought. Louisa has never gone without, but she works for everything she has -- she will not let you try to upend her life.
B: (nervously fingering his mustache) will you just hear me out?
C: (shakes her head as she gets up from the chair) quite frankly, I think I've heard enough...

(A couple of days have passed, Nick is walking out of Fallin, sees Caroline passing down the sidewalk)

N: Caroline...
C: (turns at the sound of her name, waits a moment for him to catch up, starts walking again) Nicholas...
N: (catching his breath) You've been to see my father.
C: Yes, we've spoken (slightly agitated)
N: (nods) well, I want to marry her... and I've asked...
C: (stops in her tracks) I know.
N: (rubbing nervously at his nape) its not about upending her life.
C: (looks away a moment, distracted) than what is it? a sense of obligation -- she won't go for that...
N: (hurt, almost offended)Lulu, she knows what it is.
C: (shakes her head) Enlighten me, Mr. Fallin...
N: (looks at her, considers that perhaps Lulu was right with her earlier assesment of Caroline) you're not making this any easier...
C: What are you trying to insinuate, Nicholas? (points a very accusatory finger) And what right do you have to tell me what role I can play in my daughter's life?
N: (snapping) she's not a little girl anymore, you know... she can make decisions for herself...


(Later that evening, at Louisa's house)

C: (sitting at the kitchen table with a glass tumbler in front of her, pensive, looks over to Louisa, standing at the counter) do I influence your decisions?
L: (baffled) What?
C: Since I've been here, in Pittsburgh, (pauses a moment, takes a sip of her drink) does my presence influence your decisions?
L: (swallows hard, if ever there was a loaded question) your influence in my life hasn't always required your presence.
C: (considers Louisa's answer) how so? (can read Louisa's hesitation on her face) you can be honest...
L: (shrugs) well, you weren't around... much... if ever... -- but it didn't mean I wasn't affected by your mistakes, what was going on in your life, what you did, what had happened...I'd say it was all pretty influential...
C: (taking it all in, knowing she should've seen this coming) and now...
L: Its great to have you around, but (takes a deep breath) I'm not a little girl anymore...
C: (nods, takes another comforting sip from her glass) is that what you think I came back for? to regain the past?
L: (reluctant to look at her mother's face, afraid of how she will later react) well, you can't exactly amend it...

[jevees]

Sarah... that was so good! i`m astonish... you really create this hole thing by yourself? It`s just... i don`t have words but i know someting i want MORE!
Please, i`m begging...... ;D

[Sarah]

I can't take all the credit here... its a veritable team effort, we just add bits and pieces as they surface. Great minds do think alike

Hopefully, we can get some more up and posted before tomorrow's new episode

[Rosiiii1]

OMG Sarah - that was incredible!

I felt like I was right in the room with those two! LOLOL! Burton was perfectly crusty, ornery and funny -- and Caroline gave as good as she got.

This has just made me hungrier to see scenes between those two play out. Especially with this kind of scenario.

I'm getting so excited, I'm starting to think up names for this kid! Heeee! ;D

[cecilia]

Hey, Rosiiii.....I´m ROFLMAO......pleeeeeeez, keep going with that!.....can´t LL be carrying twins (because Burton HAD a twin that died in Corea, named Walter, whose death he never recovered.....naaaaa, that´s too much...), and named them Thomas and Henry?....I can picture too little NIcks, running around, driving her crazy while he reads the paper and once in a while drops a "Tommy, Harry, boys....be quiet....I´m reading the stock news....." .....he wouldn´t be much of a help, let´s face it, as a father.....
And for Caroline....last time I say Rita Moreno she was a nun at Oz, so it´s really funny to imagine her having that kind of "mundane" talks with snobby Burt.....
Sarah, do you write ff with other name???....I know of Rosiiiii, and love hers.....but what about you?.....
and still, I think you could ask Romantique, and let LL get pregnant that afternoon at the park....:drool: