New here/Thoughts

[Godis]

I am new here and so happy that I found a message board where I could talk about a show that I liked. I have been watching the Guardian from the beginning and I enjoy the show very much.

I watched the eppy that aired this past Tues and I thought it was one of the best eppys yet. I think the reason I liked it was because that Brian character is gone......at least I hope his gone. Maybe they can redeem Lulu's character. I was so disappointed in her and the show when they had her marry Brian. I really don't know whey the show did that unless to upset many fans.

I love Nick. Most of the time, the guy confuses me. I still don't know who the real NF is. He is a very complex character and I love it. This might be an unpopular opinion but I like his snobbery and he acts conceited most of the time but I still love him....I guess those are the characters flaws.

I will love to see Nick and Lulu as a couple. They both oozz chemisty and sexual tension.....YOWZA lol. I hope that now that Brian is out of the picture, this will happen but I wouldn't hold my breath.

Next week's eppy looked so good. Does anyone know who gets shot? I think Lulu gets shot....at least I hope she is the one that gets shot so that they can put her and Nick's relationship into gear.

What do you guys think?

[atotaltotalfan2001]

Hi. Welcome. I'm pretty new too and I just love this site.
I'm really curious too about what will happen between Nick and Lulu. I mean, he was pretty rotten to her in the last episode, what with slamming the door in her face, refusing to remove himself from the case despite an obvious conflict or interest and -- let's not forget -- destroying Brian's life.... If I was Lulu, I'd be pretty peeved with Nick right now. I think he needs to suffer more, before they get together, assuming they do.

[bakergirl]

atotaltotalfan2001 wrote:

I mean, he was pretty rotten to her in the last episode, what with slamming the door in her face, refusing to remove himself from the case despite an obvious conflict or interest and -- let's not forget -- destroying Brian's life.... If I was Lulu, I'd be pretty peeved with Nick right now. I think he needs to suffer more, before they get together, assuming they do.

How long have you been watching TG....... I mean Brian has been a rotten Goose from day one. Nick helped him out a stinky situation once before, and he's been a fake and lying to Lulu from the beginning! Nick doesn't owe him anything, and if someone's destroying Brian's life, it's Brian himself!

As for Nick slamming the door into Lulu's face, he had more important things to do at that moment, Lorie and "Betsy" were in the conference room and that sad situation needed to be handled.

Even though there's great chemistry between Nick and Lulu, sometimes they need to stand up and be tall....and that's what Nick did this time, and he was right. But as you noticed his heart is still with her, which showed at the scene when Brian stormed out of the house and Nick clearly had trouble with his emotions.....as did Lulu!

Let's see what happens next, but I think Lulu needs to shape up a bit, she's getting too pathetic in my opinion!
.......but of course that doesn't mean anything. ;D

[atotaltotalfan2001]

Good points. I haven't watched TG very long at all. That's why the Nick-who-slams-the door-on-Lulu, as opposed to the Nick-who-makes-mooney-eyes-at-Lulu, caught me by surprise. You're right about Brian....he destroyed his own life. But I still think Nick should have removed himself from the case.

[bakergirl]

atotaltotalfan2001 said:

But I still think Nick should have removed himself from the case.

I totally agree with you there, it would have been better for all parties involved!

But that's Nicholas Fallin,... the devil.:devilgrin:

[atotaltotalfan2001]

I may be way off here, but part of me thinks the way Nick approached the case against Brian was very personal. Maybe, subconsciously, he had a lot of anger toward Brian because Brian had what Nick wants, which is Lulu. I'm sure Nick was just doing his job, but I don't think it was all about business.

[quilter]

Even though Brian stated that he was going back to Columbus, that may not be the end of him.

There is still the marriage to Lulu and she really did not indicate she was filing for divorce only moving out to put distance between them and to think about it.

NF was right in shutting the door in her face. He had more important matters, which was to help Betsy get through the confirmation of her having Hunington's disease.

Knowing and working with Lulu did put him in a bad spot for representing the hospital and the fact he represented or in his words, helped Brian with the hooker charge cast even more questions about his ability to be neutral. Guess because Brian's case did not go to trial, perhaps that did not count against NF and ensured dismissing himself from the case. Interesting.

Perhaps Lulu and NF will "get together" in the future, but perhaps there will be competition from Julie Tidman.

[bakergirl]

quilter said:

Knowing and working with Lulu did put him in a bad spot for representing the hospital.

Perhaps Lulu and NF will "get together" in the future, but perhaps there will be competition from Julie Tidman.

As I said it might have been better for all parties involved, emotionally, but I'm not sure that Nick had a legal obligation to do so.

I'm convinced that he should have told the adoptive parents about the potential disease that might have faced the little baby, though.

Competition should be good for Lulu, it might straighten her out a bit,.......and help her make up her mind!

[cloud9]

I'm just delighted to see more folks here to discuss this show. IMHO, Nick is one of the most complex and intriguing characters on the box. What we see of him on the surface is always a treat, but what he hides deep in his thoughts and soul keep me verrrrrrry interested in knowing more. ----What is in there behind those hooded eyes??? And I'm more than sure that Lulu has to same curiosity.....She will certainly pull herself together and investigate----Sooner rather than later, I hope. ---cloud9

[bakergirl]

Hear hear, cloud9. :rockband:

[quilter]

I agree that NF is a very complex character. There are times when I think I have an insight into him and the next moment that theory is shot to pieces.

Actually thought, the charater of BF in some ways feeds off NF as NF places his father in the position of not knowing how to react or read his son, and how to help him and thus BF unknowingly becomes a challenging character to understand. Even Jake, Lulu, James, Laurie, and Alvin feed off the NF character. Perplexing to everyone, audience included.

Lulu oftens appears to be a frustrated female who is not able to fully understand NF, cannot seem to get a grip on her thoughts and feelings, who is not fully in control of anything, even her job. Often one who just reacts and does not think everything through.

Do enjoy reading everyone's take on how the NF charater works, feels, and exists. Do feel that he uses his home and office as places to hide (they are too neat to allow relaxation and a place to wind down).

[PittsburghGal]

Hi -- I'm new to this website too, and this is my first post. I've been watching The Guardian for about a year and I really love it! I keep telling my friends, family and co-workers about the show. You'd think more people in Pittsburgh (yup I really live here) would be watching the show faithfully. But now that I've found this group I'm delighted to have other folks to discuss the show with.

I want to say that I really think the quality of the shows has greatly improved in the 2nd year, and last week's episode is no exception. We get to see what a creepy failure Brian is (we sort of already knew), but this isn't the last of him. He'll be back for sure if only to cause more grief for Nick and to mess with Lulu some more.

I like the fact that Nick is saying more this season, and I found it very frustrating last year that he said so little. I'm sure that part of the reason the writers gave him so little to say last year was SB's Australian accent would have sounded out of place in Pittsburgh.

I think he's got a much better handle on his accent and consequently his character is getting a lot more dialogue. In no way does SB speak "Pittsburghese" and I don't think he ever will. He does sound remarkably American and non-Aussie though.

Come to think of it I haven't heard any of the regulars speaking with a Pittsburgh accent and I think it's something they really need to add for more realism. The characters have mentioned the Steelers several times (totally real) and references to local neighborhoods in the Pittsburgh area have been completely correct. I've enjoyed the many location shots they have thrown in throughout each show to set the scene and give more realism. They've been great!
But the accents are missing, and so far there have been no mentions of deer hunting or our ubiquitous traffic snarl-ups, which are probably the 2 main topics of conversation here, after the Steelers have been discussed.

I think the weekly stories have been much better this year and I hope sometime they do a flash-back story about the Fallins while Nick's mother was alive. I think SB could pull off playing a college-age kid or maybe younger. It would be interesting to see how he related to her and also how Burton behaved towards her while she was alive.

Sorry I got off the topic. Just wanted to let you all know that I'm glad I found you!
Kathy

[Ginne]

As one of the old originals around here, I'm glad all of you found us!

I think one of the great things about this show is that one minute you think you know the lead character, and the next minute you're thrown for a total loop. ;D

Anyway, glad all of you could join us!

Gin

[BamaGirl]

In response to PittsburghGal's comments re:possible flashback to Nick's interaction with his mother.. He was 12 years old when she died and he was summarily shipped off to boarding school by dear old dad because he didn't have time to fool with him. And, Nick's parents were divorced when he was 10 years old. So there is very little real family life to flash back to which is likely some of the reason why Nick is the way he is.

[PittsburghGal]

Hi BamaGirl--
Hey thanks for filling me in on that. I didn't realize Nick was only 12 when his Mom died.

Well they could still show some flashbacks and have a child actor play Nick. It wouldn't have to be a whole show on just that. I was thinking it could give some background on his character and personality. I'm just thinking that there are many new viewers who missed the beginning shows (I know I did -- thank goodness for reruns). And the newer viewers don't have all the background info on his character and problems with his Dad.

If any of you here are X-File fans, you'll know what I mean. Childhood flashbacks added depth to the story but they never became the whole story.
Kathy