Competition for Lulu

[Jennifer]

I read from simonbakeronline that there will be twists and turns in the first few episodes (article from tv guide)
of TG's season 2 and that the show is bringing in love interests for both Nick and Burton. As a Nick and Lulu fan, I must say that I am not happy with this. On the other hand, I can understand why DH will do something like this. Lulu needs a competition with Nick in the love department to make the storyline interesting. Maybe by doing this, she will come to the realization that it is Nick she wants and not that cheating husband of hers. Trying to be optimistic here.

[Hales]

I actually like the idea of Nick having a love interest, its just going to be strange with Burton having a love interest... hee! :excited:

Lulu deserves to be jealous for now... but maybe something happens which will make her realise that its Nick she wants

[zzzzzzzz]

from the SBOL board msg 5879 (hope no one minds my reposting)

From Entertainment Weekly Sep 13th issue
The last thing American television needs is another legal drama starring a
righteous, do-gooding, always-on-the-straight-and-narrow Brooks Brothers
type. Which is what makes The Guardian so darn intriguing. Hotshot Nick
Fallin (Simon Baker) is a convicted drug user forced to do community service
for needy children and hating every minute of it. Still nose-deep in a
cocaine habit, Nick continues to spar with a cold-as-ice dad who also happens
to be his boss--Pittsburg law-firm founder Burton Fallin (Dabney Coleman),
who permanently peeved Nick years ago by shuffling him off to boarding school
after his mother died.

Perry Mason it isn't. But that's precisely the point, says Baker. "When we
made the pilot, I remember people asking, 'What's the story? Is he a good guy
or a bad guy?'" recalls the Australian actor (who pulls off a heck of an
American accent). "Well, that's the idea. I really liked the idea of
playing a guy who's a little bit country, and a little bit rock n' roll.
Here's a guy who has his own demons that he's got to deal with, and is afraid
of getting close, but who actually has a heart underneath it all."

Although such seriously flawed protagonists are usually anathema to network
TV, The Guardian's been holding it's own with the Nielsen jury. Averaging
12.2 million viewers last season, the series ended up being just shy of
besting fellow Tuesday-night drama NYPD Blue (12.3 million) and was
light-years ahead of its time slot rival, Fox's 24 (8,6 million). Still,
unlike Kiefer and Co.'s muchballyhooed spy drama, The Guardian suffered from
a major buzz deficit last year, which is why the gloves (among other things)
are coming off this time around. "I'm going to allow the character to
breathe a little bit and get laid every once in a while," says Guardian
creator David Hollander. But don't expect the tryst to be with lithesome
Lulu (Wendy Moniz)--the legal services attorney who kissed Nick before "going
off to marry some fu---n' goose" in the finale, says Baker. Instead, it's
with a friend of Lulu's who's involved in a bitter custody dispute--made
worse by the fact that Junior and Daddy catch Nick and Mommy together.

Oh, and then there's that little murder charge Nick's been slapped with--he's
suspected of offing his probations officer's girlfriend (last seen comatose
in the season finale after accidentally hitting her head in Nick's
apartment). Fortunately, he'll clear his name, leaving him free to face new
challenges and, well, not breaking so many drug statutes. "He's a f---up,"
says Baker. "But he wants to see himself sorted out."

The picture is a black and white sitting shot of Simon. He's wearing what
appears to be jeans and a short-sleeved t-shirt with a tiger on it. The
captions says...Strong Arms Of The Law...Baker flexes his sex appeal in The
Guardian.

[Hales]

I'm going to be really interested in Nick being caught by "junior" and "daddy" heh... but thats just me!

The rest of it sounds great... but whats with all the swear words

[fourbeccaone]

A new love interest is a great idea. Selling his body on T.V. to get an audiance is pathetic. Is he trying to say the acting and storylines are not of enough quality to hold our interests? They sound like they are running scared, and capitalizing on his "50 most beautiful people" nomination. I thought Simon has always portrayed himself professsionally in other interviews, but this one surprised me immensely. His language was uncalled for. Is he taking on the character of Nick now in public so everyone will preceive him as a bad boy? Shame on you Simon!! Let your skills in acting capture your audience. Don't become a "dime a dozen cheap thrill" on a street corner. You and David sounded like a couple of drunken flunkies.

[zzzzz]

The article is up at the EW website- together with a picture of Simon

www.ew.com/ew/report/0,6115,345494~3~0~welookatguardian,00.htm
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personally I'd rather see Nick opening up than getting laid

[iconicsoup]

Simon on a street corner? That's a giant leap to make from a couple of expletives and a mention of Nick's sex life, though I can't deny the image has a certain appeal. Simon's never been averse to the occasional "f*ck". And, well, Nick's never been averse to the occasional f*ck.

TV is all about selling. And to the best of my knowledge, getting laid is what young men do when they're through making deals, committing probation violations and having their hearts stomped on. Judging by the ratings, the show has nothing to be running scared from right now.

[zzzzzzz]

But this isn't just getting laid a couple of disparate times at the end of the day- but a multi-episode arc in which the ONLY question will be about how many times Nick gets laid and not about how Nick feels when he finds out his mother wasn't perfect.

[iconicsoup]

zzzzzzz said:

But this isn't just getting laid a couple of disparate times at the end of the day- but a multi-episode arc in which the ONLY question will be about how many times Nick gets laid ...

But where did you get this idea? I take it on faith that there will never be a multi-episode arc on The Guardian in which the ONLY question will be about how many times Nick gets laid.

It's probably not a good idea to judge the entire future of the show based on a single short quote from its creator and a journalist trying to hype the sex appeal.

[zzzzzz]

But wasn't the whole Lulu-Nick thing only about whether they were going to have sex? I didn't see anything else there.

[Ginne]

I saw lots of other things! What about trust--can she trust him, can he trust her; honesty--is she honest with herself; the whole does he really want her or just a steady relationship thing.

[iconicsoup]

zzzzzz said:

But wasn't the whole Lulu-Nick thing only about whether they were going to have sex? I didn't see anything else there.

I guess you can pare back any relationship, TV or real life, to "will they or won't they have sex" if you want to. Putting aside for a moment the fact that a large part of any relationship where there is sexual attraction is about having sex, I think there was plenty more there - although everyone seems to have a different interpretation of what that might be. Fair enough.

What stood out for me was, firstly, Lulu's confusion over her own feelings, and her faltering determination to shut Nick out in order to marry the man she's been planning to marry most of her adult life. And secondly, Nick's confusion about how to deal with a woman he fancies who is unavailable to him when he's surely used to having any woman he wants.

[Ginne]

Well said, iconic! :clapping:

[cornpopp]

I guess from the actor's perspective, at least through Simon's eyes, yes, Lulu is a woman whom he feels Nick wants to settle down with. But a lot of us have to understand that here is a guy who somewhat socially inept, psychologically he's a tad impaired---all of this is somewhat of habit he's developed for what? I guess the past 20 years---I dunno about you but its kinda hard to get rid of that

Listen, we can psycho-analyze Nick (or Lulu for that matter till we're blue in the face!) but all I can say, is that to say that all that Nick wanted to do was go to bed with Lulu would be slightly short-sighted. Either they dunno the whole story behind this relationship or well they don't know just how complicated human nature can be....Not to say we are all psychologically impaired as Nick is but certainly human nature is full contradictions and paradox---that's what makes us hmmm, well.....human..

[LaraB]

Random thoughts in a random order but. . .Wow. I never once thought about the will they/won't they question. I mean, I was completely thrown off guard by the ILP kiss and moreso the Shelter kiss. I never expected them to do anything more than make each other madder and more annoyed this first season.

I'm not too fond of expletives myself but I would hardly call it SB taking on Nick's personna. I think it's just a trend in the media that they're now starting to print EVERYTHING the interviewee (?) says, even if it's with @#$%^% and all that stuff.

I don't think one can take a single quote and base the entire second season just on that blurb. It's ridiculous to think that this season will be all about Nick getting laid. I mean, come on. He slept with 2 or 3 people last season and I much expect the same this season. But that's all just filler to me. Never mind that it would completely ruin the premise of the show.

Nick's got way too much to worry about. His father's health and approval, cases for both F&A (or his new firm) and LSoP and yes, even Lulu. I'm fairly confident that we'll enjoy this season as much as the first. And if none of this makes sense, just know that i heartily agree with Ms. Soup as well! :wave: