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Post by spunkymungbeans on May 16, 2002 23:03:49 GMT -5
M.A.Y.! You wrote:
"TV Guide reports the following with respect to the season ender:
"An attempted suicide jeopardizes Nick's personal relationships..."
My guess is that the sap Brian tries to kill himself after LuLu breaks it off with him, thus guilting LuLu back to his side...at least for a while. "
Which TV Guide was this?
"Attempted suicide" fills me with trepidation. But other previews have Nick being partially strangled by a seatbelt and hit over the head in his house. Mandy is also after him and she has a gun. An attempted suicide by him would be almost superfluous. If he was feeling that way all he would need to do was say to Mandy - "So you want to shoot me? Great. Bring it on".
On the other hand, it seems as if the pressure on him just continues to mount. How much can a person bear before he snaps? I raised this a couple of weeks ago on Simon Baker Online but was brushed off with "By Nick doesn't appear to be the depressive type". But you don't have to be the depressive type to come to the end of your tether.
Any thoughts, anyone?
(By the way, Droppy. Your new signature line is just to distractive. It takes me twice as long to read a thread now!)
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Post by mb20 on May 16, 2002 23:20:06 GMT -5
:devil:
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Post by mb20 on May 17, 2002 1:09:19 GMT -5
But other previews have Nick being partially strangled by a seatbelt and hit over the head in his house. :drool: :drool: :drool: |
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Post by mb20 on May 17, 2002 1:16:34 GMT -5
Yup. I agree. But I doubt Nick would snap in that way .. cos well, it wouldn't make for thrilling viewing, in a way.
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Post by spunkymungbeans on May 17, 2002 1:17:35 GMT -5
Now that (the drool) response has me seriously worried  I don't want to see Nick getting hurt  |
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Post by spunkymungbeans on May 17, 2002 1:21:01 GMT -5
I know. I have a lot of resistence to the idea as well. But it makes sense if you think about it.
I raised the potential for suicide elsewhere and NO-ONE wanted to discuss it. They are all for increasing the pain level because it adds to the drama but don't want to see what would happen if it gets too much. But something has to give.
Either Nick finds an outlet or else.
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Post by spunkymungbeans on May 17, 2002 1:22:40 GMT -5
But I have an equal amount of resistence to the idea of him using again as well. But either would be typical responses to that type of pressure.
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Post by mb20 on May 17, 2002 1:31:28 GMT -5
I think there is potential in the suicide idea. I mean look at Nick's life. He's sort of at the end of his tether, but hanging on anyway. I don't know how long he would be able to hang on, but anyhoo. Suicide is realistic. Sort of. But we probably wouldn't want to face the thought of it, cos he's our tortured little hero, and he's got to fight his way through it. We don't want to see him giving in and feeling hopeless (well, not directly anyway) .. as suicide suggests.
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Post by Ginne on May 17, 2002 1:32:32 GMT -5
You'll have to excuse GB--she enjoys seeing Nick in pain. We're seeking out professional help for her! ;D
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Post by mb20 on May 17, 2002 1:41:12 GMT -5
I think Nick's natural outlet would be the drugs. <br> Or else, he would take comfort in his relationships (if those ever work out for him) ..  |
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Post by mb20 on May 17, 2002 3:49:45 GMT -5
You'll have to excuse GB--she enjoys seeing Nick in pain. We're seeking out professional help for her! ;D Gee, thanks ... :beer: |
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Post by M.A.Y. on May 17, 2002 9:14:07 GMT -5
I'm going to stand by my initial prediction and say that it will be Brian who tries to end it all by his own hand.
I don't think that having a main character (the title character no less) attempting suicide will work dramatically. It is far too depressing and will likely turn viewers off. If the writers did this to Nick he would become a pathetic figure and you cannot structure a show (at least successfully anyway) around a character of that type. Sure, Nick is flawed, but at the same time he is a strong and compelling character, and I'm sure that Simon is not interested in playing a character that viewers feel sorry for.
Besides, having Brian attempt suicide works for the plot, in that it explains LuLu's "revelation" to Nick that thwarts progress in their relationship. It would be understandable that she would return to Brian's side if he tries to kill himself over the wedding cancellation. So LuLu will likely tell Nick that she cannot be with him now.
I know there is a great deal of speculation that the relvelation will be that LuLu is pregnant. I don't think that's in the cards.
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Post by juliana106 on May 17, 2002 9:23:26 GMT -5
Hmm... I'd like to think that this attempted suicide is by Brian. In the preview, we saw that nice scene between Nick and Lulu --- this could be from the beginning of the episode. Perhaps she has been gone a few days, and explains to Nick what has happened with Brian --- after they cancelled the wedding, he attempted suicide and she has been with him. Nick is devastated, thinking that she's gone back for good, but maybe by the end of the episode (perhaps sometime just before he gets arrested) she will give him a glimmer of hope. Side note --- I don't think that Lulu would really be helping the situation by running to Brian's side, or leading him on to think they'd get back together again only to leave (and I am a huge supporter of Nick and Lulu getting together) but the girl's gotta do what she's gotta do. Chances are that both Lulu and Nick will feel guilty that the attempt was made  Another thought, maybe Brian left a curious suicide note, knowing that she was leaving him to be with Nick. Not the best for Nick, but Lulu would get over it sooner or later.  |
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Post by Milz on May 17, 2002 10:33:12 GMT -5
:oWow! That's some spoiler!
I'm looking at the May 18-24 issue of TV Guide ( the newstand magazine) It only says
"In the first season finale, Nick's life is thrown into confusion when he realizes that his father's transfer of the firm to Caldwell (John Rubenstein) has come at a great price."
I figured this "price" has to do with the deal Burton admits making in "Chinese Wall". Does anyone remember in "Lolita?" when Nick smirked at that Clayton Steel heir and said something like "I always wondered how it would feel to run the family business into the ground". Does Burton lose everything?
As for the attempted suicide, I'm hoping against all hope that it's Laurie. Frankly I think the suicide would be someone we're not too familiar with someone like Mitchell Lichtman.
As for Nick and depression, it's hard to say but anyone can suffer from depression.
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Post by Hales on May 17, 2002 11:37:25 GMT -5
Suicide :eek: not the lovely Nick... he doesn't seem the type to me... no matter what he's feeling... Droopy you're :evil: when it comes to torturing Nick :bawling: Brian attempts suicide? :rofl: (I'd like to see that) Nick gets arrested? why? what did he do? he's already reported (whatever it is that he reported) what he could in Shelter... also from what the preview shows Mandy threatens Nick about what happened in the episode before Shelter (I'm not into remembering names), so he's in a lose/lose situation anyway... I also don't want Nick getting hurt... but if I had to choose Nick getting hurt or being arrested for the second time... I'm sadly going for him getting injured... That an we could get concerned Burton? or am I just hoping for too much? :biggrin: |
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