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Post by cecilia on Jun 1, 2003 21:40:10 GMT -5
Hey, Linda.....you could help me and tell me the right way to say that ( my weird line about the chess....)  .... Couldnt Nick be whistling, too,...."who is sorry now"...?...  |
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Post by Lindatheeditor on Jun 1, 2003 22:20:18 GMT -5
Cecilia, try "play against himself" and don't worry about it--probably not too many other people picked up on that, and if they did, unlike me, they were too polite to say so. Yes, "Who's Sorry Now" would also be very appropriate. It's easy to whistle, too, if Nick goes in for that form of self-expression. |
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Post by cecilia on Jun 2, 2003 8:25:13 GMT -5
 Thanks, Linda!..... I appreciate corrections to my mistakes...I usually write down things with the hope someone tells me the right way to say it!......
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Post by coffeeGirl on Jun 2, 2003 13:05:12 GMT -5
okay, this is my prediction, it's more concerning the end of season 3 , Nick probation and community service are almost over and we need to find a way to keep LSP in the picture.
LuLu stays in California , instead we get a new lawyer , slightly older then Nick, divorced with a kid . no sexual tension there , why? because it turns out she's his half sister. Burton and her mother were involved before he married Ann (I know, a little soapish but bare with me)
She finds out towards the end of season 3 ( episode 18 or 19). she welcomes Burton in to her family, he is very glad to have a daughter that's nice to him and also a grand daughter, they keep inviting Nick to family events and he keeps making up excuses. at the same time a dirty secret from his past surfaced up, all this is too much for him and since he is no longer on probation he starts using again.
at the final episode Nicks half sister invites him to a family dinner with Burton , her mother and other people, Nick declines and Burton gets mad at him,. Burton goes to the dinner party and has a lot of fun. Nick too goes to a party , gets high and over doses
the last scene shows Burton coming home smiling to himself, takes off his coat and presses the answering machine only to hear a message from the county hospital about Nick.
what do you think?
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Post by juliana106 on Jun 2, 2003 13:18:17 GMT -5
okay, this is my prediction, it's more concerning the end of season 3 , Nick probation and community service are almost over and we need to find a way to keep LSP in the picture. LuLu stays in California , instead we get a new lawyer , slightly older then Nick, divorced with a kid . no sexual tension there , why? because it turns out she's his half sister. Burton and her mother were involved before he married Ann (I know, a little soapish but bare with me) She finds out towards the end of season 3 ( episode 18 or 19). she welcomes Burton in to her family, he is very glad to have a daughter that's nice to him and also a grand daughter, they keep inviting Nick to family events and he keeps making up excuses. at the same time a dirty secret from his past surfaced up, all this is too much for him and since he is no longer on probation he starts using again. at the final episode Nicks half sister invites him to a family dinner with Burton , her mother and other people, Nick declines and Burton gets mad at him,. Burton goes to the dinner party and has a lot of fun. Nick too goes to a party , gets high and over doses the last scene shows Burton coming home smiling to himself, takes off his coat and presses the answering machine only to hear a message from the county hospital about Nick. what do you think? Clever idea, but I don't know that TG would go the route of Nick having a sister -- especially since in season two they had Burton's "deep secret" about the woman and her abortion. On another note, wouldn't Lulu actually have to go to California in order for her to stay there? If... perhaps, that was the way the story went, with Lulu heading off for a while (as I think such a mundane exit demands a return) -- Nick's overdose at the end would be an ideal time for her to show up at his doorstep, and maybe even finding him there after his party, unconscious... |
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Post by atotaltotalfan2001 on Jun 2, 2003 13:42:36 GMT -5
Of all the things Nick could do that would upset me, using again would be the worst. I don't think I could take it. By that point he would have already been through so much and would have worked hard to stay sober despite it.....I'd rather find out he was LuLu's stalker than see him using again!
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Post by cecilia on Jun 2, 2003 16:29:01 GMT -5
After ATR Nick could perfectly be at the incline, in his tux :thud:, a glass in his hand and singing a tango like this:
Percanta que me amuraste,
en lo mejor de mi vida
dejandome el alma herida
y espina en el corazon.
Sabiendo que te queria,
que vos eras mi alegria
y mi sueno abrasador.
Para mi ya no hay consuelo
y por eso me encurdelo
pa´olvidarme de tu amor
(Mi noche triste. The saddest night. C.Gardel) ;D
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Post by jevees on Jun 2, 2003 20:05:55 GMT -5
Yes, yes yes!! Cecilia, that was so so nice... nick singing a Tango... definately...you chose one of Gardel... and the lyrics fit so much.... Linda I read you song too, very very good... really .... but i still think shannon will return and it`s not that i want to... cause she is stealing Nick`s time on the screen you know! Coffeegirl what an imagination... god... but for me it`s too deppresing ... my poor heart is gonna break...  I want LuLu to stay and I want Nick to kicks his father ass, cause i`m sick he treats him like rubbish... What happened to Burton in the last episodes I used to love him... how he became this selfish bastard?? I want the father and son relation back, cause in the lasts episodes there wasn`t a relation at all... MY POOR NICKY!!!  |
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Post by Lindatheeditor on Jun 2, 2003 20:47:04 GMT -5
Yes, Jevees, I agree with you--I'd hate to see Nick using again, although after that business with Shannon I don't know that I'd blame him for being tempted.
I too want the Nick-Burton relationshiiiip back, esecially with no Shannon. I wrote a Nickfic that's on Yahoo!Groups: the_guardian_Nickfallin.com called "The Dark Side" that postulated how Nick really reacted to the Shannon thing that touched on it. I wouldn't be surprised if he was really resentful, but being Nick, is so unfamiliar with his own emotions and feelings that he doesn't even know it. I'm also in agreement with your statement that for someone who's supposed to love his son so much Burton seems to have forgotten whhat Nick is to him.. I used to like Burton too, but I've been completely put off with him ever since "Understand Your Man". It's as if once Nary and Shannon came along Nick didn't fit into the picture at all. Burton seems to take Nick for granted. I hope we'll see him get a right royal comeuppance.
I also think Shannon was very bratty in SJ and ATR. Burton was to blame for allowing her to interrupt that meeting and I think Nick showed extrordinary forbearance. Her behavior in refusing to accept his apology was inexcusable and so was the way she reacted when he showed up at her birthday party. I think she was feeling her power--nyah, nyah--he loves me more than he loves you! To do her justice, she may have finer feelings than we know in her choosing not to go back with Burton--she might just have realized that after that kind of accusation there was no way things could ever be the same between them again. I'd like to think so, but of course, we have no idea and whon't have a clue unless and until she turns up again in S3.
I wonder just what the true extent of Nick's involvement with drugs is. We've heard a lot of other people's comments abbout it, but many of them were like Rob in Where You Are, so I would tend to doubt their veracity. They may be recalling incidents of which they themselves have no clear memory and some may be projecting their own actions onto Nick. Then again, they could be completely truthful and it's a miracle Nick ever came down. That's something else we may never know the exact truth about. Even casual users have a hard time staying off the stuff, though, from what I've heard, so I hope Nick has the strength of will to get on top of this thing and stay there.
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Post by cecilia on Jun 2, 2003 21:41:57 GMT -5
Hi, Linda...great post, as usual!.... I´m an ex-Burton-liker, too....I´m having a hard time trying to figure out what DH want to do with him; at the incline, when he says he wants shannon back, he sounds half a child with a tantrum, half a senile man....I want her out for good. There´s no time enough to develop Nick and Burton relationship, there´s NO way they use some of this time to show us shannon adjustance to her new life. I dont have a clue how they are gonna work this out, but it´s for sure the most important plot in the show (even when I´m for romance and want Nick to have more happy evenings with Lulu...). And for the drug issue....we were discussing that in other thread, and in my experience (not many, some) addicts have a hard time staying sober when they dont cooperate in their rehab (and Nick is THE non-cooperating type) or keep living with the same circumstances, stress, emotional-ties, environment than they did when using drugs or alcohol...This is something I´d really love to see, if not worked out, at least remembered by the writers!....This threads, plus Taliek and James, could consume a lot of time, so if this could be the last season I hope they dont gonna start bringing new lawyers (female, young, smart, and with expiration date), people in coma, freak clients of LSP, or just freaks in general. Not to mention "the shakening-Nick´s world family secret" and jeremy and liz....and I´m leaving behind the stalker, jess (the kid in a coma whose medical guardian is nick..), caroline, and all the accesories they seem to think the show needs!.... (I hope this is undertandable....it´s late and I tried to say too many things, I guess...) |
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Post by lambertoise on Jun 3, 2003 5:58:38 GMT -5
IMO, the drug's issue is one that has not been developped properly. I hope Nick won't go back on drugs, but drug addicts need something to sustain the withdrawal. Not only the physical need - and in Nicc's case, this doesn't seem to be a problem - but the emotionnal need the drug use fulfills.
What I see is Nick drinking. We saw how he eyed the glass his father let at The Incline. And we also know that he can get drunk (Causality). It would be a legal way to forget his problems.
Now, concerning Burton and Nick, I am probably the only board member who thinks we see enough of it. Nick is a grown man despite his pouting teenager's attitude sometimes. We have every week something of it : sometimes, it is to show us indifference from Burton, sometimes anger from Nick, but there is always something. More would be too much. I'm sure there is going to be a big clash next year, I'm sure, regarding the best way to handle the fight in the parking .
DH likes to explore the dark sides (of people, of things) which is exceptionnal on TV. That is one of the characteristic that makes that show so very interesting. Maybe Burton resents Nick sometimes - Oh he loves him too- because Nick loves his mother more than him. I wouldn't be surprised if next year, in a kind of revenge, Burton tells Nick everything about his mother's past : infidelities, depressions, etc. After that, they won't talk for weeks...
Clay will also be a pivotal character for a few episodes Not too many, I hope, because I don't like the character. He will do something nasty again and that will bring the worst from others, like Jake this year with his big guy who threatened Clay.
NIck could also help LuLu to set up a practice in Pittsburgh that would be a competitor for Alvin's clinic and Alvin would be very angry with Nick and LuLu - he already doesn't like them! Through that new clinic, Nick would be able to give some more hours ( like I want him to do in my fanfic! More screen time!!) and take care of Jesse.
And if we repeat We want Nick dancing! We want Nick dancing! many many times, maybe we will be heard!!!!
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Post by cecilia on Jun 3, 2003 7:23:35 GMT -5
What I see is Nick drinking. We saw how he eyed the glass his father let at The Incline. And we also know that he can get drunk (Causality). It would be a legal way to forget his problems. . And if we repeat We want Nick dancing! We want Nick dancing! many many times, maybe we will be heard!!!! YES, WE WANT NICK SLOW DANCING!....:bouncing::bouncing::bouncing::bouncing::bouncing::bouncing::bouncing::bouncing: and drunk.....I love drunk-Nick :thud: too...... (a sadistic sort of love......) |
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Post by atotaltotalfan2001 on Jun 3, 2003 11:01:31 GMT -5
IMO, the drug's issue is one that has not been developped properly. I hope Nick won't go back on drugs, but drug addicts need something to sustain the withdrawal. Not only the physical need - and in Nicc's case, this doesn't seem to be a problem - but the emotionnal need the drug use fulfills. What I see is Nick drinking. We saw how he eyed the glass his father let at The Incline. And we also know that he can get drunk (Causality). It would be a legal way to forget his problems. Now, concerning Burton and Nick, I am probably the only board member who thinks we see enough of it. Nick is a grown man despite his pouting teenager's attitude sometimes. We have every week something of it : sometimes, it is to show us indifference from Burton, sometimes anger from Nick, but there is always something. More would be too much. I'm sure there is going to be a big clash next year, I'm sure, regarding the best way to handle the fight in the parking . DH likes to explore the dark sides (of people, of things) which is exceptionnal on TV. That is one of the characteristic that makes that show so very interesting. Maybe Burton resents Nick sometimes - Oh he loves him too- because Nick loves his mother more than him. I wouldn't be surprised if next year, in a kind of revenge, Burton tells Nick everything about his mother's past : infidelities, depressions, etc. After that, they won't talk for weeks... Clay will also be a pivotal character for a few episodes Not too many, I hope, because I don't like the character. He will do something nasty again and that will bring the worst from others, like Jake this year with his big guy who threatened Clay. NIck could also help LuLu to set up a practice in Pittsburgh that would be a competitor for Alvin's clinic and Alvin would be very angry with Nick and LuLu - he already doesn't like them! Through that new clinic, Nick would be able to give some more hours ( like I want him to do in my fanfic! More screen time!!) and take care of Jesse. And if we repeat We want Nick dancing! We want Nick dancing! many many times, maybe we will be heard!!!! I think it's perfectly possible that Lulu will start drinking. It seems she often has a glass of wine in her hand already. |
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Post by lutile on Jun 3, 2003 11:11:20 GMT -5
IMO, the drug's issue is one that has not been developped properly. I hope Nick won't go back on drugs, but drug addicts need something to sustain the withdrawal. Not only the physical need - and in Nicc's case, this doesn't seem to be a problem - but the emotionnal need the drug use fulfills. What I see is Nick drinking. We saw how he eyed the glass his father let at The Incline. And we also know that he can get drunk (Causality). It would be a legal way to forget his problems. snip Clay will also be a pivotal character for a few episodes Not too many, I hope, because I don't like the character. He will do something nasty again and that will bring the worst from others, like Jake this year with his big guy who threatened Clay. I noticed Nick looking at that drink too. It seemed as if at that moment he really wanted one. I agree about Clay, I don't like him either, but he could make for some interesting problems :devilangry: |
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Post by lutile on Jun 3, 2003 11:14:00 GMT -5
Hi can someone please explain how to put a quote in the box? I am having a bit of trouble. Thanks so much
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