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Post by Ginne on Oct 29, 2002 23:40:14 GMT -5
F&F
As Nick enters, Burton comes up to him and tells him the guys from Velocity (the other company) are in the conference room, and Thomas is in his (Burton’s) office and refuses to come out until someone brings him his lucky shirt and socks. Burton says he’s going to talk with the people from Velocity and Nick should deal with the partially-clad Thomas.
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Post by Ginne on Oct 29, 2002 23:41:56 GMT -5
Nick enters Burton’s office. Thomas is standing by the window. He tells Nick that what he’s always wanted was to spend time with his kids, but when he was with them all he could think about was work. He tells Nick that he thinks about killing himself almost every day. “You know about this, don’t you?” he asks Nick.
“Sort of,” Nick replies.
“But you got help—“ Thomas continues.
“I got arrested,” Nick answers.
Just then, Mrs. Thomas breezes in. She’s got two shirts and hand warmers left over from their skiing trip. She quickly gets Thomas pulled back together and into the meeting.
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Post by Ginne on Oct 29, 2002 23:43:53 GMT -5
At the meeting, Thomas is amazing. He presents his requests to Velocity, and they agree. Back in Burton’s office, Nick says to him, “Before, you were talking about suicide.” Thomas brushes him off, saying he was only talking, etc.
On the way out, Thomas turns to Nick and says “You’re a lot like your dad. You’re a hell of a lawyer.”<br>
Nick: “I didn’t do anything.”<br>
Thomas: “My point exactly.”<br>
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Post by Ginne on Oct 29, 2002 23:47:07 GMT -5
Back in Burton’s office with Burton, Nick is upset. He lays out his fears to Burton, telling him he’s not sure Thomas can handle being CEO of this new corporation.
Nick then tells him that Thomas has told him he’s a lot like Burton. And that’s a problem? Asks Burton. Nick explains that it is in a situation like this where he’s not comfortable with what they’ve done.
Burton tells him that if Nick is going to be thinking like this, maybe he should be an associate. He points out that there are a number of lawyers out in their office who would love to have a deal like this, and if needs be, he’ll find someone else to close the deal. Nick walks out.
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Post by Ginne on Oct 29, 2002 23:48:51 GMT -5
The Prison
On the phone, Nick asks Laurie to set up a meeting of Dale and Penny’s family at the prison. Once there, he gets them to talk a bit, gets the father to tell Penny that she’s angry at him, not her brother, and not to take her anger out on Dale.
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Post by Ginne on Oct 29, 2002 23:55:26 GMT -5
The Incline
Nick is sitting at the bar, a glass of something clear in front of him. Lulu walks in and says something about needing it more than he does. She takes a drink and makes a face. She says she thought it was vodka. Nick tells her to have a seat, he’ll buy her one. She sits down, and as they wait she tells him that she doesn’t blame him for not telling her about Brian. She’s known for a few weeks now, and she’s angry about it is all.
Nick says “What he did doesn’t reflect on you.”<br>
Lulu tells him “I married a man I don’t love. I didn’t know it . . . I know now because the prostitutes don’t bother me as much as they embarrass me.”<br>
Nick: “I represented Brian because I care about you.”<br>
Lulu: “I know. I don’t really want to go home.”<br>
Nick, with a rueful smile: “Come back to my place.”<br>
Lulu, grinning weakly: “You really like to get into trouble. I know that much about you.”<br>
Nick: “What are you gonna do?”<br>
Lulu: “Sit here and talk until it doesn’t bother me to go home. Will you do that for me?”<br>
Nick, standing, laying money on the bar: “I can’t really do that.” Walks out.
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Post by Ginne on Oct 29, 2002 23:57:39 GMT -5
The hospital
Nick’s gone to see Dale and Penny after they’ve done the transplant. They’re sharing a room. Nick chats a few minutes. Dale tells Nick that he wants to be a roadie now. Seeing the look of surprise on Nick’s face, Dale starts to explain what a roadie is, but Nick interrupts him, grinning ear to ear, saying “I know what a roadie is.” He closes the door.
The End.
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Post by spunkymungbeans on Oct 30, 2002 0:03:16 GMT -5
What did Dale want to be before?
Now I know why Nick didn't want to stay. She wants him to make her feel good about (or at least oblivious to) her decision to stay with Brian. He can't do that.
Sorry, your on your own with this one Lulu.
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Post by Rosiiii1 on Oct 30, 2002 0:12:50 GMT -5
Just needed to interject, I don't think she says sit and talk "until it doesn't bother me to go home." That line wasn't spoken.
Course I could be wrong, but I don't think so.
The only thing she says about "home," is that she doesn't want to go, and she says she "can't think any more."
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Post by show watcher on Oct 31, 2002 0:45:32 GMT -5
Thanks for sharing! I was wondering what happened. I had to miss the show and tried to find out what happened. I am pleased to have been able to find out what I missed. Glad to know this site got changed and it is available on line now. Thanks again for posting it!
(now I wonder what lulu was calling the doctor for?)
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Post by jezbel on Oct 31, 2002 8:05:21 GMT -5
One other little tidbit that I think is important: After Nick propositions Lulu ("you can come home with me"....said with a little smile) he says, "Really, though, what are you going to do?" Important to establish that Nick just doesn't want to sleep with Lulu. Also I thought the "brushing the crumb" of off Nick's lip showed that Lulu feels very comfortable with Nick and that he almost flinched at her touch.....zap....electricity!!
Lulu was calling the Doctor to make an appointment to get checked for a sexually transmitted disease. I think she made that pretty clear.
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Post by quilter on Nov 4, 2002 17:19:46 GMT -5
Hi
I am fairly new to this board, but my husband and I have been watching "The Guardian" since it started in 2001.
The comments made regarding this episode being great are very true. Mr. Hollander has allowed "NF" to mature and think of others rather than just being a hot-shot corporate attorney and self-centered.
The story line was interesting and allowed the audience their own emotions.
Many have said that they did not care for the episode "The Monster". When you compare the two they are at opposite ends of the spectrum, but Mr. Hollander has allowed "NF" to function as many of us do in everyday life when confronted with situations that are disgusting or unreal. We know what we must do even though working or helping a person in such a situation is definitely difficult and trying. Emotions that NF displayed, but did his job.
The disgust that NF displayed in "The Monster" was as compelling as the pleasure displayed in helping Dale obtain a bone marrow transplant to safe his life. It is very obvious that Mr. Hollander is allow NF to grow and mature, which appears to becoming a "sore" spot between father and son with regard to servicing legal clients.
The sparks did fly between Lulu and NF and this will be an interesting story line. His relationships with LSoP employees and clients and the firms' clientele seem to be on a collision course that could be very interesting in future episodes.
NF's flawed character is the string holding the show together and I just hope that Mr. Hollander allows this to develop very slowly.
Perhaps Lulu needs some real competition in order to get her moving in the right direction? Could the situation with being placed on the LSoP's board since she has a "stable marriage" be a clog in the relationship between Lulu and NF? Hope Mr. Hollander handles this as carefully as he has other situations and continues to provide the audience of "The Guardian" with high quality drama. Perhaps an Emmy is in store for Simon Baker for the 2002 season.
This would be a feather in The Guardian's cap and should guarantee future years.
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Post by bakergirl on Nov 6, 2002 21:02:12 GMT -5
Hi there, I'm also very new....and only a guest, but I wanted to tell you that yesterday when I tried to give some input I really messed it up, sorry  Gin, you did a wonderful job telling about "The Living", but I also agree with some other suggestions. Spunky, Penny is 15 years old. Henry Thomas tells Nick in Burton's office (with only his pants on):"It takes me 3 hours to get out of bed in the morning, and I think about killing myself every day". After the meeting when Thomas is leaving and he and Nick are walking in the lobby it goes like this: Thomas: "You're a lot like your Dad, anybody ever tell you that" Nick: "No!" Thomas: "Hell of a lawer" Nick: "I didn't do anything" Thomas: "That's what I said". I thought that was great dialog.  Jezbel, You were right. Nick did say to Lulu:"You can come back to my place", and I think that this time he was really being nice to her. Knowing Nick, sex is never far from his mind but I believe at that moment it was maybe second ? ;D I think that Nick is really being nice to her, especially after the way she behaved at the jail. Why did she have to go and see him, and then playing dumb  after Nick asked her why she married the Goose.  Anyhow, this time at the bar I think he really was concerned about her. Rosiiii1, You were correct also that what Lulu said wasn't completely correct either. Nick: "No really, what your gonna do" Lulu: "I don't know,.... just sit here and talk, would you do that for me" Lulu: "I really can't think about anything - anymore- just sit here and talk" Nick standing, and paying: "I,...I can't do that" and walked away. I think that the show is great, thought provoking, and that all of you are great, and I love all the discussions.!  Keep it up!!  bakergirl |
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after Nick asked her why she married the Goose. 
Anyhow, this time at the bar I think he really was concerned about her.
bakergirl