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Post by Jennifer on May 3, 2003 22:17:03 GMT -5
I have posted this in WMOL and thought that I do it here too. I think that LuLu's job application happened before he and Nick got together. Probably before the accident. As someone said, there is no way she will apply for a job that requires moving out of P'burgh, not after that poetry date. It doesn't make sense, at least to me. And there is question about whether LuLu is divorced? Well, she said to Nick while arguing with him in the courthouse........"I WAS married, and you came on to me". So I assume she is already divorced off screen.  |
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Post by fourbeccaone on May 3, 2003 22:30:43 GMT -5
Jennifer
"WAS" I think that meant: She said he was "loose" (something like that), he said loose what does that mean... Lulu 's response was well,when I was married you came on to me. That's how I understood it. I can't remember if she ever said she filed for divorce or the divorce was final. Am I getting mixed up on fanfic and reality. Please clarify. Did I have the wrong take on this scene, Jennifer?
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Post by spunkymungbeans on May 4, 2003 1:32:54 GMT -5
According to The Guardian Timeline at Simonsphere.com ( www.geocities.com/simonsphere/timeline.html ) Brian moved out around 7 February 03. I've done a little research on Pennsylvania divorce laws at: www.divorce-forms.com/PENNSYLVANIA-DIVORCE.html#GroundsEven presuming that Brian and Lulu both consent to the divorce it will take at least 90 days from commencement of the divorce action until the divorce is granted. So, even if they filed as soon as Brian left at the beginning of February, the earliest time by which the divorce could come through would be early May. But bearing in mind that Lulu was rather busy getting hit in the head by SUVs and recovering in hospital, etc I think it is more likely that they waited a few weeks before filing for divorce. And you have to take into account the usual court delays and so forth. So my guess is the divorce may not be finalised until mid-year. Again this is provided the divorce is by consent. |
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Post by spunkymungbeans on May 4, 2003 1:45:37 GMT -5
I can only assume that by this she meant that she was still living with Brian at the time he made the pass at her. The only time I can remember Nick making a pass at her when she was still with Brian was when he commented that she could go to his place, after she told him ("The Living") that she no longer loved Brian. It was hardly a full-hearted attempt at seduction.
Of course he DID offer to stay with her when she was being stalked and almost planted a kiss on her so this might count as well.
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Post by spunkymungbeans on May 4, 2003 1:48:34 GMT -5
As for the job, she may not have applied for one. It could be a previous employer or someone she has worked with offering her a position. For example, Judge McHenry might be starting a practice in California and wants his former clerk to become an associate there.
She might find an offer like this extremely tempting.
Leonie
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Post by Rosiiii1 on May 4, 2003 3:50:48 GMT -5
I agree Jennifer. "I WAS married," means exactly that -- she's not anymore. She's divorced. This is TG time we mustn't forget -- time passes and things occur "offscreen," as you say. Also, when LuLu was married...Nick "came on," to her in YBTM (couch scene @ Kim's) by inviting her back to his place and almost kissing her, and he invited her back to his place in "The Living," also in "Testimony," behind bars he was pretty frisky as well - telling her he "wanted to be with her," wanting to know why she got married, and why she wasn't on her honeymoon. Plus, we also never found out what went on behind that door in "No Good Deed."  |
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Post by Hales on May 4, 2003 5:53:04 GMT -5
True, but there is that part where Lulu could have ignored him... yes, Nick is very persistant but that doesn't mean she couldn't have told him to go jump off a cliff... and I mean that in the nicest possible way :biggrin:
Nick after all is my favourite character so I always want him happy :biggrin:
Lulu can make her own choices, so if she gets the job I think she should go for it, that is of course if she did apply for it ... plus I thought everyone loooooved angstyNick :devilgrin:
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Post by Jennifer on May 4, 2003 7:21:32 GMT -5
Jennifer "WAS" I think that meant: She said he was "loose" (something like that), he said loose what does that mean... LuLu 's response was well,when I was married you came on to me. That's how I understood it. I can't remember if she ever said she filed for divorce or the divorce was final. Am I getting mixed up on fanfic and reality. Please clarify. Did I have the wrong take on this scene, Jennifer? Hi fourbeccaone!  Okay, this is how I understood that scene. When Nick and LuLu argued inside a room in the courthouse, Nick said "so when Dan the yogaman asks you to go downdog or whatever the hell you want to call it, you're going?" Then he said, you might let him think that you're going but in the end, you're not going to. This is when she said, "so you think I lead you on? I WAS married Nick and you came on to me. It's anyone's guess. I don't pay much attention to the TG timeline, this is why I think that she is divorced off screen. I could be wrong, but she could have just said, when I was with Brian, you came on to me, etc. JMHO.  |
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Post by jevees on May 4, 2003 10:54:38 GMT -5
IMHO LuLu is not already divorced... I think that when she she said I WAS married, she meant when she was still living with Brian... There`s not a good reason for this thought but I think that there should have been something in the show when she have had the divorce papers! ;D This has nothing to do about the offer(well it`s a consecuence), but you all read that there`s a photo of the season final which indicates that nick `ll hit someone and his father `ll be present!!! I wanted to see this since a while.... Nick punching someone...  |
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Post by cecilia on May 4, 2003 11:03:33 GMT -5
I agree with Leonie....she can´t be divorced so fast, considering the accident and all that....but since its tgland ...But again, as jevees says, they would have probably given us an indication the moment those divorce papers were ready....So, she might´ve applied for that job before, in order to get rid of her marriage and her past....now, there is no reason....and jevees, we know he is not....but I´D LOVE TO SEE NICK PUNCHING BRIAN, wouldn´t you?.....our poor sungod has suffered too much because of him.... At the courthouse she tells him "when I was married..." implying before I filed for the divorce, imo....at kim, at the incline, and probably mucho more we didn´t see (as she tell him in the bridge...."every conversation we have ends up with you telling me to divorce Brian..." (or something like that)....I LOVE THAT TALK!....AND NICK IS SO GORGEOUS THERE!.....  |
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Post by jevees on May 4, 2003 11:21:00 GMT -5
Cecilia of course I `d love to see him punch Brian, but the last time we saw them together they kind of act very good to each other... so it`s kind of a dream to see it...
Now burton holding the guy who Nick just punched is something I want to see.... and them if Burton says something to N he can simply send him to hell...
LuLu what are you doing to our pacific and calm Nicky Fallin(I`m kidding). However N is going to show us again his skills as a fighter(last time he figthed he just give the other guy a punch with his head...don`t know how to say it in english)
I`m just here imagining the whole scene and I`m dying to see it! ;D
Oh Ceci there`s new fanfic, and it`s very good ..take a look!
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Post by fourbeccaone on May 4, 2003 11:42:47 GMT -5
Jennifer,
Thanks for going back and looking up the scenes and transcripting them. I appreciate the feed back. I'm not sure Lulu is completely divorced yet and some of the postings suggest the same (thanks spunkymungs for the research). On another thread, everyone was guessing why Lulu would even consider going to Cal. especially now that she and Nick seem to have finally found each other and accepted each other's sincere feelings for each other. I don't think there is any pretense about this relationship as with Kim or with Brian. My guess for the Cal. aspect was that because she wasn't yet divorced from Brian, maybe he is the one asking Lulu to join him in starting a new life in Cal.
Upon hearing this, Nick looses control and his excessive explosive behavior in court, maybe in trying a case opposite Lulu , warrants the judge to give him anger management therapy. Could the man you are all seeing in some preview( where is this found) be Brian, back in Pitt looking for a last ditch chance at coercing Lulu. The goose is back!! Please tell me no!!!
I'm rambling again. I'll go read some fanfic to calm down.
fourbeccaone
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Post by niki c on May 4, 2003 17:01:01 GMT -5
I might be losing my mind here, but I only remember once when Nick actually physically came on to LuLu -- the first season, in Shelter, when he kissed her.
Maybe "came on to" doesn't have to mean in the physical sense, as in trying to steal a kiss. But it surprised me when she told Nick he had come on to her when she was married......Nick always let her know he cared for her and was always lurking around, waiting for a clear field with LuLu. But I never really thought of him as coming on to her....maybe "coming on" just sounds too crass to me...I associate with a guy trying to pick up a girl (or the reverse) ...it has a sort of cheap ring to it, I think.
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Post by cecilia on May 4, 2003 20:51:50 GMT -5
Hi, niki c....I don´t think we have seen all the interaction between nick and lulu. The dialogues at the incline (living) and the bridge (innocent), besides they were so comfortable talking at kim´s living, IMO, meant they have shared more than the moments we saw. When lulu tells him "every time...bla,bla,bla"...we didn´t see THAT happening more than once, so they have obviously more moments alone....and maybe nick made or said something that led her to believe that...IMHO, if I were Lulu I would´ve certainly believed he came on to me(I dont know if the expression means something bad, but since it the one they were using...). If it was so obvious for the people at lsp that he was after her, he must have done something more than check the place every time he arrived...
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Post by Rosiiiiguest on May 5, 2003 1:32:55 GMT -5
..am not logged on - hence "guest" ... ...but Nick never denied what Lulu said ("I was married Nick and you came on to me") - he essentially just passed the buck. There's no Snead (Brian) listed in the last episodes, so I believe he's gone for good. Besides, he's in Columbus not California. Also, there was definitely a realization on Brian's part from Lulu, Nick and Caroline (Mama) that he was toast. He was resigned to the fact that it was over. Plus, if you recall in that one ep which featured Lulu being so mesmerized by the Fallin family pics and slides (forget ep title) - Brian when he delivers the box back to Nick at his office, is almost conciliatory at one point - even going as far as to *almost* tell Nick, that Lulu is, or will be available...then he looks at Nick, who's giving no quarter and is not being receptive/friendly at all, and says...ahhh forget it - nevermind. |
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